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That's it right there. He didn't show much post surgery last year, but he did have a decent season the year before it. I guess we will see if he is a .800 or .600 guy now.

If we had been able to produce more guys like Danny Mendik during the rebuild, things would have gone a lot better.

Taking a deeper look at our roster and our prospects, I can't picture who our OF will even be in two years. Our top guys are a long way away in Zavala and Wolkow, and both of them are high bust types of candidates, as well as high ceiling. Then you get into Brooks Baldwin, DeLoach, Veras and Burke. You can count Fletcher if you like, but he looks like a low level starter at best. IF looks a bit better with guys like Ramos and Colson nearing Chicago, and Quero behind the plate, but they well could be 25 to 26 arrivals outside of Monty. Pitching looks a lot better, but the Sox need a HUGE infusion of offense from outside of the organization in the next few years if they want to be a playoff team, and I can't squint and see it with the failures of ILoy and Yoan.

Q said outside the box. I can't imagine anything more outside of the box than baseball normalcy.

Outside of the box? For the White Sox? A normal interview process where we bring in lots of outside candidates without connections to the owner or GM and we do honest interviews with them to learn what outside views of the organization look like so that we get a good and honest assessment of the on the field product and the best way to move forward.

I don't see a realistic scenario where we can get enough talent to the majors in 4 years to help Luis Robert be on a playoff team unless we trade Luis Robert to a playoff team soon and clean up.

That is a terrible way to run a franchise. With the gap between good and bad as historic levels, the need to accumulate a lot of talent all at once is greater than ever before. Losing players for nothing when you have one of the lowest amounts of talent in your franchise from top to bottom is borderline negligence.

Looks like Aaron Boone got tossed for a fan behind him saying something. Look where everyone points, even the dude in the 2nd row pointing at the guy in front of him.

There is also a twitter rumor that Minny would pick up the pick as compensation. Jesus this could be huge.

Whether Cease, Burger, and/or Aaron Bummer was here, we are going to go through years of bad baseball. Period. End of story. Even in that list of 3 players, Dylan Cease is the only one with any REAL value to a franchise. I won't pretend that Jake Burger and Aaron Bummer are some sort of difference makers. If you get value to specialty relievers and DH's you trade them everytime when you have a 100 loss team if someone is willing to give you some value for them.

I absolutely love hockey, especially live. I am disgusted by the actions that this franchise look, and the genius of the cover up is that most of the participants were gone or disposable by the time it came out. Even all of that said, the franchise is worth a half a billion dollars less than the piddly White Sox. Even in the midst of the Sox downward spiral, they still managed to pull in an extra $60 million more than the Hawks did last year. That is a direct result of media revenue amongst other things. In any three team partnership, the Hawks are going to be pulling in BY FAR, the least revenue, and it won't even be particularly close. The Sox were estimated at $60 million in local money in 2022. Can't find one one for the Hawks, but I promise you it is no where near that number.

If the Getz era is going to be different than the Hahn era, it has to start in the farm system. Barring the tank trades, the man was not able to generate even replacement level players on a regular basis, let alone decent starters to fill empty positions. This has to start with having players forcing their way on to the major league roster on a regular basis. You can work around not spending (like we have seen in Tampa and more recently Baltimore, and every once in a while in "Oakland"), but you can't work around not investing in the system.

Even if they spent Mets money this year, they weren't getting out of this mess.

From a financial perspective the NHL is a red-headed step child compared to the NBA and MLB.

As the team that protected a molester for a decade, I don't think they have much room to think of their image.

Oh I got your point, I just don't think you understand that winning 63 games this year instead of 55 and then losing all of those guys anyways makes a damned bit of sense when a team is as bereft of talent as the White Sox are right now.

Here's the thing that makes that unplausible to me. The Sox already ate something to the order of what Pedro would make over the next two years to sign Bryan Shaw for a week and a half. If he was really in that big of a cost cutting mode, they wouldn't be signing Tommy Pham or Michael Clevinger. The numbers are WAY bigger for them than they are for Pedro.

No, the tank era started when every single player regressed from 2021-22, and turned the major league roster into a dumpster fire. Being ignorant of the teams position and failing to get a return for expiring assets would have only compounded the problem that this team was already facing. It is sunk cost fallacy. The failure already occurred. It's what is done afterwards that can cost the team years and prospect capital.

The Lions won as many games as the Pistons this year. I wonder if the Sox can match the Bears... (sarcasm)

It is so early for that. Again people need to keep in mind with the broken foot last year Eder is still in the conditioning ramp up phase post TJS. He needs innings and could still be physically recovering his stuff. If you include AFL, he is at about 60 inning post TJS as a starter.

They might not have gotten as much as the year before, but they would have gotten a lot.

He's hurt, shouldn't people be mocking him for being injured again?

You knew he was slumping when his numbers weren't getting updated daily.