southsider2k5

Lol, do you you look things up before you say them? Garrett Crochet has thrown a grand total of 6.1 innings in AAA in his career. He has thrown 6 at AA. His entire MiLB career is 12.1 innings.

The guy who actually work in baseball as an actual trainer feels he has 80 to 100 innings in him tops this year, so no it isn't "flabbergasting" to think this. In fact your completely unsupported and un proven opinion is the one that qualifies as "flabbergasting". Give me one example like Garrett Crochet in baseball going from 30 innings a year on average for the years before their surgery to a full starter work load.

You are absolutely correct that whatever this is is tiresome.

Holy s%*# are you being intentionally dense in a sad attempt to make a point you are 100% wrong about. He absolutely 100% threw only 12.2 innings in 2023. He may have done other things, but they do not fall under the actual definition of innings pitched. So did every other pitcher in baseball. In fact they would have done multiples more work because they were healthy and working at full speed and strength.

They are still throwing sides and spring training. Also I really hope you aren't trying to say that Garrett Crochet made up somewhere around 1000 innings when he missed time because he was always hurt, again meaning that healthy starters would be throwing WAY more in unaccounted innings than Crochet.

Thankfully the starters DL is way more posh than the relievers one.

That is absolutely accurate. You can say he had other workouts, but so did everyone else meaning the distance between he and a typical starter is still around 1000+ innings of game work over those 7 seasons.

It also doesn't account for that with any other pitcher who has done it either. It's not like normal starters don't do that as well, or probably again, way more in preparation to start for a season

Easy. Crochet hasn't. Look at his innings totals. That is the roadwork. Since 2020 he has thrown a TOTAL of 79 innings. 7.5% of all of the game innings he has thrown in 5 seasons happened yesterday. If you like, you can add his 12 MiLB innings to bring his 5 season total to 91 IP. If you really want to stretch you could add his college 132 IP over parts of 3 seasons to make a grand total 223 innings over 7 seasons. Tommy John had pitched 153 innings the year he got hurt and 218 the year before. Yes John pitched as many innings in the full season before his injury as Crochet did over 7 seasons.

Zero interest in playing pointless whataboutism with you. By your own standards you don't get to decide either, so why are you doing this?

I wonder if the just left him in extended spring training for the 6 days.

I always use the analogy of you can be a world class 100 meter runner, but that does not mean you can run a world class marathon. While doing the same things in the same way, the conditioning and training are TOTALLY different. You need thousands of miles of roadwork and distance runs to be a top level marathoner. This is the trip that Crochet is on now. He is accumulating all of those miles so he can clock 30 starts and 150 innings eventually.

This is trash. Common decency shouldn't require an ethnicity.

Even more so, Crochet ASKED for EXACTLY this. He wanted to be a full pledged starter.

Look, I don't think most people doubted the stuff of Crochet. People doubt the durability of Crochet, and for good reason. He hasn't even remotely stayed healthy at any point in his career. One great start does not change that.

About as decent as the last Sox rebuild...

Is the replacement Abreu thread? This is like 1.5 stars at best. Try harder.

ThEy WeRe UnLuCkY

He wishes.

You aren't supposed to say that part out loud. They are "grinders"