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This is not going to happen for YEARS at least. They are still in cut mode.

Look, if you are trying to change people's mind that the hitting prospects are fine, you should probably be able to name more than two decent ones.

Yet one of the biggest and most loyal fanbases in the world.

Nicky Lopez and Mike Soroka for starters.

I mean, they did exactly this last year. Why would it be surprising if they did it again. Honestly, my only hope is that Chris Getz purposefully Major Leagued last year to try to get Jerry to agree to the changes he wanted all along, because any other scenario is worse for Sox fans.

This one I will agree to. Execs are always out there pretending like the guy they ended up with, was the one they wanted all along. I remember the old joke about Mike Trout being the second choice of 29 teams in MLB the year he was drafted.

I am all about these two.

So it is probably happening.

But we will hear plenty about how great they actually are, and how we shouldn't have expected anything more.

The crowd that thinks we can build around Crochet will lose their minds.

Which is why the ballpark village concept would appeal to Jerry.

This is going to be ugly when it happens if he signs an extension early on.

This has never been about drawing fans when winning. We all know Sox fans are a bandwagon lot who show up for blue skies. Jerry is looking north at Wrigley for a place whose game day experiences are so powerful that people don't just show up when times are good, but still show up when things are bad.

I, for one, would welcome our new overlords.

No, I was saying he wasn't top 30, which is accurate. He is literally not. You shifted this into "well i think so" territory

He will also be going back to Birmingham as a 25 year old, and again above league average age as a post TJS guy with a profile that doesn't really jump out.

Even if it actually were to happen, that just means he got on because other guys fell so much. That is also not a good thing.

So we are to the point where you claim he is a top 30 guy because you claim he is, despite no one else saying it. Got it. Cool.

Looking at FutureSox, Keith Law, fangraphs, and MLB rankings he is quite literally not a top 30 guy.

Gowans is not a top 30 guy right now. Shuster was terrible last year for ATL and their AAA team. He was awful at Charlotte and awful as a starter for the Sox. As a reliever he gave up an OPS split of 110, meaning he was 10% worse than league average. While his ERA fell as a reliever, all of his splits actually got worse. He struck out less batters, gave up more H/9, a walk every other inning, and a not great HR rate. He hasn't shown he was a MLB reliever by a long shot.

They made the Bummer trade in large part to win games in 2024 and lost 20 more games than the previous year. They targeted guys like Nicky Lopez to improve what was the leagues worst defense. They were even further behind the rest of the league as the leagues worst defense. They targeting pitching to try to fill out a rotation. They were the worst pitching team in baseball. We got have one guy out of that trade that might have a decent future, and he isn't even a top 30 guy for the White Sox. We got no future out of that deal. This deal was an abject failure in every aspect.

This is an awful flex.

The system is made for comps, and also builds in a salary suppression system which lessons after each year until the last year they are a full scale. Just the removal of a level of suppression from year 4 to year 5 is a big increase. It's literally now the system is built. Look it up if you don't believe me.