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I gotcha, the ends justifies the means. You realize then every person who uses Frank's field numbers to justify his clubhouse behavior, loses all rights to every criticize anything that Sammy Sosa ever does. Because basically it is the exact same arguement. Sammy has earned the right to be an asshole way more than Frank ever has because he has bigger offensive numbers.

A-f***ING-MEN. You guys have already forgotten about Frank's first day of spring training tirade where he ripped apart Manuel, Williams, and Konerko? Konerko he ripped over something that he thought had been settled in July of the previous year! It was only 3 1/2 months ago. Well I guess you are half right Frank didn't call him out because he wasn't playing well, he called him out because of something that was almost a year old, and was supposedly already forgiven.

That might be the lamest arguement yet. You have the right to suck if you preform well for some amount of time? My God do you see how that sounds? Frank has the right to do whatever he wants even if it hurts the team, as he did all last year, up until September, but since Konerko only has 3 good years in he doesn't. By that logic we should have brought back Harold Baines over Maggs, Jose Canseco over Carlos Lee etc., all because they have a "track record".

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/prof...le?statsId=5066 Here you go, he is hitting worse than both Borchard and Harris this year, and worse than what Rowand was doing at AAA.

So Konerko is a hypocrate because Jerry Manuel benched him? What are you talking about? What is the connection between Manuel benching Thomas, and Konerko?

I am curious to see if the downturn in offense continues past this year. There is a definate short term reduction in runs and home runs going on right now. I don't know if this is a natural rebalancing, pitching catching up with expansion, or fall out from steroid testing or what. But if Frank keeps up and gets to 500 HR's with out turning into a Jose Canseco type player, he should get in. Espesially if the downturn in offense turns out to be a trend and not just a blip on the radar.

This was on Baseball America's site. It sounds like not a big deal at all if he is only on the 7 day DL. The interesting part was his pitch speed. If this guy is averaging 13.5 K's per 9 IP with a fastball that doesn't break 90, he must have some incredible movement on his stuff. Even more so than I ever imagined.

If they give us Brian Giles too....sure, why the hell not? I for one do not want to trade for that s***bag Lofton and give up a lot of talent in the process, because Pittsburgh will look for a lot if they do in fact deal Lofton. Small salary, good numbers, last year of contract...they're not going to deal him for a bag of balls. They'd probably ask for Rauch and then some for Lofton. I am not trading Rauch, who could be a pretty good starter some day, for Lofton, who would be a rent-a-player. And to answer my question from above....no, we are not going to get Brian Giles. Rauch for Lofton? Lol. Who do they think they are, Billy Beane

Lots of good trade talk in here

This could be getting more interesting. This is from SI's Ken Rosenthal

then you might have missed the reports that Bush kept sending CIA reports back to the CIA (and NSA) with the insructions to make the reports match what Bush had pre determined to do. The only person who misled anyone is Bush tricking the American people, and using Colin Powel to lie to lie to the UN. The NPR site would have this info, broadcast last Saturday, I believe. Is there a link to the story? from a different source that NPR - but really, last night on tv and radio and in the written media this story is everywhere -- Bush makes claims with no intelligence......................................... support not sure that this one totally adresses the white house sending back to the intelliegnce agencies to revsie their reports, but NPR is at npr,org and you should be able to find it http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...9-2003Jun4.html Now this is exactly what I have seen. Everything that I have seen either has Rumsfeld or Chaney attached to it. I don't know if this was to cover the President, or to dupe him. But the more I see the more I think Bush was played for a patsy by the Hawks in his administration.

You are a youngin aren't you Either that or I am old?

Now this is a guy that I would like to see us go after.

Heck you could work on the Streets here and experience the samethings with out the heat

Alrighty. We'll be in there until gametime. We'll also have our "Welcome home Ray" sign. Watch for us on TV guys!! Will do. Make sure Ray gets a good ovation!

Hey 1422 you mean Thursday you are going? Let me know, we will meet up for that beer.

I am going Thursday... I know it isn't today, but I haven't been to a game in 6 weeks and can't wait to see some baseball.

I am going to crawl out onto a limb and say that the week off does Pauly some good.

Mark Buehrle is 4th from the bottom of the AL at 3.66 Runs per 9IP. The first 3 are all Tigers pitchers.

That is such a lack of class on behalf of the fans.

Is it just me or is Kevin Towers a pretty big idiot?

Spivey NO WAY, he was a fluke last year. Boone and Kent are getting paid a ton of money. They are both in the 8 or 9 Million a year range. Vidro is the only guy on that list, I could see.