You guys realize that if Harris or Rios know how to track and catch a fly ball without letting it get past them, or if Frank Thomas can actually dig out a realatively simple turf bounce from Joe Crede ( it bounced about 10 feet in front of him, Frank contorted his body away from the ball and wiffed on it) the final score is 5-3 Sox. Sure the offense didn't contribute in the 2nd half of the game, but if the defense is even respectable this whole conversation is moot.