southsider2k5

It is hard to drive in runs when you have station to station guys on base in front of you. He is hitting almost .290 with RSIP since 2000.

It is completely different in the dugout and front office. That is like saying Billy Beane is a great GM so he must have been a great player.

That comes from having guys like Konerko and Thomas on base in front of you.

I still wonder how Hawk would do as a manager. You definately wouldn't have a flat team with no fundimentals...

He is leading this team by 3 in RBI's...

Danny gave up 2 solo HRs back to back in the 4th and then a run on a near DP in the 5th. Carlos's Grand Slam is our offense. I did like the fact that we took advantage, we got a HBP, single from Borch, BB from Jimenez, to get the bases loaded.

I don't quite get why Carlos keeps getting stuck in the 5th or 6th slots. Everytime he has hit 2nd or 3rd, he seems to respond BIG TIME.

Don't say that too loudly...

How long does this organization wait until they make some kind of a big move? Are we going to make sure that 2003 gets too far out of reach first?

We are almost 1/3 of the way through the season. Daubach is EXACTLY right. We are just luck that MN hasn't buried us yet. By all rights we should be 10 games behind.

For anyone who has not made the trip to the Field Museum to see the Baseball As America traveling exhibit. GET OFF YOUR ASS AND GO! It was an incredible mix of the history and social impact of baseball through out the 150 year or so history of America's past time. There was so much memorabilia and history in such a small area it was amazing. It took me 2 hours to make it through the exhibit. For anyone who is out of town I recommend the book by the same title. It is available on Barnes and Noble dot com for $12 now, marked down from $35. I want to try to go back and see it again as a matter of a fact.

If you can call someone with 2 points a winner... It was a tie between Maggs and Borchard. Pickers were HotSoxChick and thebighurtbegood with Borchard and me, IDseer, and Soxheads with Maggs.

Ordonez

LOL. that might be on my list of places I would rather be dead than be in... How come no one said Comiskey Park? That is my fav. Then Key West, South Padre Island, and Niagra Falls.

This is 2003 HSC, they are now known as D'Angelo days, get with the times! Carlos days are SO 2002!

ANY time you lose to the Tigers, someone needs to revive this thread! You go Heather!

Well it would have been Joe Crede, but since no one took him... Maggs Frank and Graffy all had two points. No one picked Graff so he is out. Frank had two K's plus 3 outs, and Maggs only had 3 outs so the Ordonez's win. Pickers were HotSoxChick, Mathew, CWSox, IndySoxfan, TexSox, and WhiteSox247 And just one Crede pick would have beaten everybody!

SON OF A b****! Stupid jinxes won't work in reverse! http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=230523104

Magglio

LMAO! Yeah I guess I am not a fan of the TEAM, because this TEAM would have been better served by spending that $5mil plus on players who have put up better stats this year AND play the field. WHAT FRANK DID IN THE 90's ISN'T HELPING IN 2003! God with that logic we should go resign Joe Jackson and Louie Apparico because they used to be INCREDIBLE. I must not be a fan of the team because I think Mark Buehrle is more important to this team in 2003 than Frank Thomas is. Sorry son, you are a fan of Frank, not the Sox.

Once again change the arguement to fit what you need. First it is one start, then it is a couple starts, now it is ten years. Fine. That doesn't change the fact that Frank is a shadow of his former self. His swing is COMPLETELY different than his MVP years. You don't believe me, go back and look at the videos. He can't hit an inside pitch and he can't hit a fastball. If you don't believe me go back and watch tapes of this season. The guy also can't hit in the clutch anymore. He is hitting .167 with RISP. According to your 5.19 era type arguement that means Frank isn't a good player because he can't hit in clutch situations. It is the same sample size (just this season) and RISP is exactly when a clutch hitter hits. If ERA can tell who an ace is, RISP is a MUCH better indicater of how clutch a hitter is. All 9 of his HR's are solo. So that must mean he can't hit with runners on base. LOL. Gosh arguing in your nonsensical style is much more fun than actually making any common sense. maybe I should do this more often.

I dont care. You dont have a 5.19 ERA because of poor defense and lousy hitting. Heck, hitting has nothing to do with Buehrles ERA. Poor defense is a factor but if your ERA is 5.19 you just arent pitching well... What about hitting .251 over your last 700 plus AB's? What does that mean? Frank (Im guessing thats who youre referring to and I dont like it at all) has hit for power as well. In those 700 ABs hes supplied us about 110 runs and those probably lead to a couple of wins. Buehrle with a 5.19 ERA has done nothing to help us win, except for the two wins which he made up for with seven freakin losses. Say what you want about Frank, hes a million times the player Mark is... So Mark with 35 victories in 2 years and two months at under $750,000 has been more important than Frank Thomas at $20 million plus injury prone, and terrible contributions has been more important for the Sox. The only reason that he is still here is that Jerry stopped KW from dealing him, and when Frank was a free agent NO ONE WANTED HIM. Face it his skills have declined. Watch him hit. He cannot hit an OK major league fastball anymore. With Frank on this team, we have locked up 10% of our payroll on someone else who could be hitting AND playing the field. For that $5 mil plus we ended up signing Frank for we could have gotten Jose Cruz Jr AND another starter or position player. If you were a fan of the team you could actually look each player objectively, instead of subjectively crucifying some players who haven't been NEARLY as bad as your hero.

But that isn't what you said. Quit changing your story.

LOL! So one bad outing means you aren't an ace... but have a few bad years, hey its all good!