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Agreed, I think the biggest issue is minor injuries seem to affect his production more than one would like. I honestly hold my breath every time he has to leg out a grounder because it seems like every time he does he's tender and gimpy for long stretches. Hopefully it is just recency bias with COVID last season, he has looked MUCH looser/smoother/less restricted to my untrained eye in ST this year. Hope it holds up cause dude can mash.

Maybe players should start demanding less money to play a children's game? Everything in life is supply and demand. Owners do not have an obligation to lose money in order to meet a player's demands. If there is nobody willing to buy your services, you're asking for too much.

Anybody that is worried about losing Dunning is effing insane. 5 of his 8 starts last year were complete trash and mostly against pretty terrible hitting teams, he would absolutely be exposed over 162 games against a standard schedule. He never once gave me any once of confidence that he can command his less than elite stuff and his BB/9 rate is abysmal. He's not THAT young, these are the types of dudes you get rid of for bonafide studs like Lance Lynn. We were 1 starter away from potentially winning the WS last year and we're now that much closer to actualizing it. Lets go win this damn thing!

The word "Sox" is plural, just say Sock or work around it. Seriously though. If you disagree, insert the north side team in the title of this article and see how ya like it.

Haha, when I got home my Dad was like "c'mon man, he went to Rita!!!" Haha I shoulda known!

Rest In Peace Farmio, I will always have a special place in my heart for Ed. I spent a lot of time delivering pizzas growing up in Tinley Park, listened to Sox games in the car as much as I could. My favorite Farmer call from that era was when Bob Howry beaned Torii Hunter, apparently Hunter was giving Howry the stare down, Farmer said something to the effect of "yeah, go on out there Torii, you'll have one less "I" in your name and in your head!" Right around that time I was able to meet Ed, a family friend happened to be a chef in the clubhouse restaurant, once a year he would get us a free skybox. The last year he worked there he took me down the hall and into to the broadcast booth to meet Ed during an inning, my 17 year old mind was blown. Ed popped up, shook my hand all while Rooney handled the game, asked me where I went to school, I told him Providence Catholic, his reply "ahhhh the Augustians!" At the time I didn't know he went to St Rita, so I was taken aback by his knowledge of Catholic orders. Longest fingers of any man I've shaken hands with, must have come in handy for wrapping up those curve balls! Ed wasn't everybody's cup of tea, but you can't deny the passion Ed had for White Sox Baseball and the love he brought to that park every day. I feel like there's not many of these guys left, every time we lose one it is a sad day. Thanks for the memories Ed, your passion for baseball rubbed off on this Sox fan and you got me through many a long shift!

I agree with everything you just said whole heartedly as do all of my real Sox fan friends and family I've spoken with. I really hope ownership takes notice.

Long time lurker, rare poster here. This is why I don't even believe the Sox offered anywhere close to $250M. You have to consider State Tax rates in this deal, it's too big not to, unless Manny truly only cared about the long term guarantee/weather/whatever. My thoughts in this are due to the potential earnings over the first 8 years. AAV of $30Mper (Pads) and $31.25Mper (Sox), CA state tax rate of 13.3% for earners over $1M, IL flat state tax of 4.95%, this equates to Manny saving $29,545,000 more over the course of 8 years if he signed with the Sox. There's some Federal Tax implications as well for no longer being able to deduct state taxes on your federal, but I'm too lazy and stupid to figure all those out. The whole thing just doesn't make a lick of sense dollars wise. Please feel free to poke any and all errors made in this statement btw if there's any CPAs out there.

I'll miss Hawk. We all know it's time, but I chose to remember the good days. Fond memories of yesteryear, asking my Dad what the heck a cat-bird seat was, what the heck a can-of-corn had to do with a baseball game. I'll miss his candor. The number of guys that can actually get away with saying what they feel in our social justice warrior era can be counted on a couple hands at best. I'll miss his enthusiasm. Hawk has been the voice of my baseball team for as far back as my memory goes, and I think growing up listening to a guy live and die on every pitch in a game where essentially nothing ever happens, made me feel like it was important, like that's how I should feel about baseball, and it worked. He put everything he had in to this gig for a long time, and as corny as it sounds you can't argue with the passion he brought to the mic day in and day out. I'm glad I got to grow up listening to his stories of legends I couldn't pull up youtube videos of at my fingertips. I feel bad for the kids today that will never get to experience that. Sure, the Grandpa campfire story magical feeling waned as I grew older, but I'd still take a tall tale from the Hawk I've heard 100 times over Benetti telling me what his Mom put in his lunchbox. Love em, hate em, somewhere in between, hats off to a legend, the end of an era, this Sox fan will always cherish the memories. Thanks Hawk

QUOTE (WBWSF @ May 3, 2017 -> 06:42 AM) Looking back at Dunns time with the White Sox has never been explained. Was he hurt? Did he lose his desire to play after signing a big long term contract? Didn't he like playing for the White Sox? Dunn was the first big free agent signing since Albert Belle. He didn't produce here. Nobody has ever figured it out. Dunn was frequently out drinking with Peavy and Ryan Dempster's ex wife at Houndstooth and other local bars til the wee hours of the morning. I don't think he ever "cared" after he made a little money.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 01:00 PM) I wouldn't put him over Fulmer and he's probably not as good a hitter as Collins. He didn't do that great in A ball this past season. Honest question, what do people like about Fulmer other than where he was drafted? His mechanics need to be entirely rebuilt, his control is non-existent, and his stuff does not appear to be as advertised to this lay person.

The time has come for Kenny to go.

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 11, 2016 -> 08:01 AM) One more thing on Brett Lawrie. His surname is pronounced like the name "Laurie," now "Lowry." This confusion alone is enough to make me regret signing him; I hear people getting it wrong more often than not. Hopefully once the game broadcasts start up this'll be rectified? Hopefully Brett rectifies the pronunciation of his name to conform with the English language instead of going around and correcting everybody his entire life.

Jesus Pena

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 16, 2013 -> 12:17 PM) He was a badass. I remember once when he hit Tori Hunter and Hunter glared at him on the way to 1st and Farmio said something like "Yeah Tori, just flap your mouth cuz you don't want none of that." I remember this exact moment. Farmio said something like "go on out there Torii, you'll have one less I in your name and in your head when Bob's done with you". Couldn't believe he said it.

I believe Kalapse stopped updating that spreadsheet because it can all be found here now. http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...12-roster.shtml

Haha, so Teahen is gone, and Morel still can't get a start against a righty, regardless of the fact that he hits better off righties. I'm seriously so sick of Ozzie, I want him gone yesterday.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 8, 2010 -> 11:37 AM) What angers me is that these ballplayers who are already incredibly wealthy, and claim that their number 1 priority is to win, seem to forget about that come contract negotiation time. Couldn't the guy survive on $10 million a year so we could have signed Putz? Or some other bullpen arms? PK's demands have the potential to hamstring us a bit here, and it frustrates me to no end that the guy doesn't care about that. I'm happy the guy is back. His bat is definitely going to be needed. But I'm also going to look at him in a much different light now then I did just a week ago. Guy has saved the Sox probably 5-8 million over the years, and is taking deferred money to stay in Chicago, and you're going to look at him in a different light? Get real. How are you gonna fault the guy for taking what he's worth? Go ahead and ban me from this site, but this might be the dumbest post I've ever seen.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 24, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) Joe also had a pretty decent career if you didn't notice. 361 Home Runs and 369 Strike Outs, ridiculous.

What are they saying on the radio? Is this definitely a confirmed deal? I hate this deal with a passion, Teahen is a zero tool player.

This trade blows. Getz is a better player than Teahen. Teahen would be a nice asset to have off your bench, but for close to 4mil, that's not what he's here for. Don't like it one bit.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 2, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) Well alot of what you said simply isnt true. But I especially liked where you stated he has a "little" HR power, but then that all he does is try to hit long balls. He's an above avg offensive player at SS, and is a rookie defensively, and a decent one at that. But I'd like to see your list of SS you would like starting over Alexei. Why didnt you post that in the first place since it was part of your proof points why you dont like the guy. FYI league avg SS .269 4hr 25 RBI Alexei .276 15hr 58 RBI 1. Hanley 2. Bartlett 3. Jeter 4. Asdrubal 5. Escobar 6. Aybar 7. Tejada 8. Tulowitski 9. Scutaro 10. Reyes when healthy 11. Rollins 12. Guzman 13. Theriot 14. Andrus doesn't have the numbers yet but he's 21 15. To make 15 I'll toss in Freddy Sanchez, who has played some SS.

No, he's not a good SS defensively, and he's mediocre to below average offensively. Other than possessing a little home run power, he's in the bottom half of MLB SS in almost every offensive category. He's a bad baserunner and base stealer despite possessing above average speed, he does not hit doubles, he does not draw walks, he cannot handle a bat, he cannot hit situationaly. I can name 15 guys I'd rather have starting at short for my team. To me he's a large part of the problem, he fits right in with the style of play the Sox are trying to move away from, guys that can only hit long balls, but he possesses a bit of speed and looks fast so it flies under the radar that he is a bad baseball player. Add to this around 20 errors at short on the year, mental lapses in the field, and I think the cons outweigh the pros on this guy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 26, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) He is a good major leaguer. Good power, can draw a walk, and plays fantastic defense. He's a better version of Juan Uribe. Except for the part where Uribe could play 3 positions, and Nix has proven he can play only one at the Major League level. Oh wait, so he's nothing like Juan Uribe, other than a garbage batting average.

Anybody else have the same Sox desk calendar that I do? Today's trivia on the calendar says "Who is the only Hall of Famer to have played for both the Houston Astros and the Chicago White Sox?" A:Joe Morgan Huh? Who the hell comes up with this stuff.