Jack Parkman

I know. They might be as bad or worse than the O's. They're already screwed guys. Cease and Robert are the only guys left in the minors. If they're not going to win games with most of the guys up here, the rebuild has already failed and it is time to clean house and start again.

I'm not even going to take a lot out of this start for Gio. Throwing a slick baseball in the pouring rain is not fair. Not to him and not to the fielders either. They shouldn't be playing this game.

Look at his xFIP. It is around 4. While you're probably right that he can stick in the back of most rotations, he's going to frustrate the hell out of you in the process. Rodon is basically Rich Harden without a fastball.

Last season's Rodon was a mid rotation guy(#3-4) , with the potential for more. Rodon in 2019 is a bullpen arm. Rodon's not going to get away with throwing 91. To be fair, Giolito doesn't throw enough strikes either, but he has more than 2 pitches. Rodon has 2 great breaking balls, but his fastball and changeup are well below average in 2019.

At best. The only thing that keeps him there is that both his slider and slurve are both ++. IMO he'd be a lights out bullpen piece. He misses bats but he doesn't throw enough strikes. Even before he was injured, Rodon struggled to get to the 5th without 85+ pitches.

Nope. He has 2 breaking pitches, his fastball command is worse than Giolito's and he throws 92 mph.

He's not. That would be Moncada. If Rodon threw 94-96 and had any idea where his fastball was going it would be him. Rodon in his current iteration is a bullpen arm.

To be honest I don't think anyone on this staff, with Giolito's current performance, is an MLB starter. That includes Rodon. Speaking of Noodle Arms.....WTF was that from Eloy.

Fine you guys win. Everyone sucks, this rebuild is a failure, there is no hope, the Sox are going to move in 2028, and the Earth is going to turn into Venus and we're all going to die.

He doesn't need to throw 98 because his offspeed stuff is that good.

You can't nibble against the Yankees.

Dude, I'm not afraid to criticize him. You can't defend his performance last year. He still has the best stuff on the starting staff. He has problems throwing strikes and repeating his delivery. I'm just saying the talent is there. Sure, at some point you give up on him. Being the best pitcher on this staff right now is like winning a tallest midget contest anyway. Remember Daniel Cabrera with the O's? Right now he's kind of like that. Stuff is there, control/command....not so much.

If Mike Trout played for the Sox, Fathom would find something to complain about. Probably would call him a noodle arm. d Mike Trout in a Sox uniform: Fathom: There goes that bum trout. Has a noodle arm.

No, that wasn't my point. Nowhere did I compare Giolito to those guys. Nowhere. I just said that Fathom would find something to complain about with any pitcher or hitter ever, no matter how good. He used to complain about Sale and Quintana, he complained about Buehrle, he complained about Frank not swinging the bat with RISP even though he didn't have anything to hit, etc. He'll b**** about anything.

No my point is that you think that even the best suck, so your opinion about who sucks and doesn't has no value.

You thought that Buehrle sucked too. Every baseball player sucks to you, including Mike Trout. HE MAKES OUTS 60% OF THE TIME! MIKE TROUT SUCKS!!!

Fathom to you, Randy Johnson's fastball was an urban legend. If Randy Johnson pitched for the Sox, Fathom would say it was an urban legend because he can't locate it. Also Fathom: Greg Maddux Sucked with the Braves, because he gave up runs every now and then. Also Fathom: If a hitter doesn't have a 1.000 OBP they suck, because they made an out. If a pitcher doesn't have a 0.00 ERA, they suck because they gave up a run.

This man speaks his username....The Truth.

Theo is an A to B GM and Dombrowski is a B to C GM. Both of Dombrowski's championships were B to C jobs.

I still think Mozeliak is the best in the business. Having the balls to let Pujols walk won me over. Los cojones grandes. He's great at making decisions on who to pay. Goldschmidt and Holliday were great examples.

Oh shit that was him??? I didn't know that.

He's won once. 2018 was his first. Dombrowski is too reckless for my taste.

He also got fired whereas the other guys didn't. Theo might have the most championships, but baseball is weird and I look at playoff appearances, keeping payroll flexibility, as well as drafting and development. The three guys above Theo are better at maximizing a window than Theo is. I'm a believer to evaluate baseball GMs playoff appearances>>> championships because winning championships is more about dumb luck than anything else.

Not enough of a track record with most of the guys. There's a reason Cashman, Mozeliak and Friedman have been in their jobs for 15-20 years. The reason you can assess these 3 guys the best is that they've been in charge for at least two cycles of a window. They've built a contender, made a WS, tore it down when the window closed and built another contender. I've seen enough of Theo to know he's not on their level.

I'd say Cashman as well but he comes with an asterisk because it is the Yankees Those 3 guys are the only ones with enough of a good track record to definitively make an assessment. Other longtime GMs like Hahn, Daniels, etc are below average to bad. Wait and see on Preller, and the Rays GM and you can't say shit about the Braves because the guy that built that team got permawhacked from baseball.