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NFL Thread 2019-2020
Jack Parkman replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I still want the Bears to bring in TJ Yeldon. I think he could be a Thomas Jones-type signing. -
Thanks. I was a little rattled by that guy's reaction for most of the day, but in the end I know what I believe about the subject and I don't need the validation of a random poster that I've never met, who completely misunderstood what I said, to help me sleep at night. I'll be ok, and I can brush it off.
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Please explain. I'm sincerely interested. If I said something weird or out of bounds it wasn't my intention I just think it is naive to think that poisoning of kids by adults with an agenda doesn't happen in rare cases. I don't even think it happened here. I agree with SS2k5 in his second post on the subject where he said that any investigator could tell if a kid has been coached into lying in 15 minutes. I just wonder how many times investigators actually run into that? 99% of what SS2k5 said I actually agree with, and the overwhelming majority of the time he's right. I just think there needs to be a minor dose of skepticism in any investigation, otherwise why investigate? Bottom line, sexual assault is a sticky subject and there is an incredible fine line here. I guess I was trying to approach it from a neutral point of view like an investigator should and it is too emotional for most people. My beliefs are that 1) An investigator should take an accusation seriously and assume it is credible until proven otherwise 2) They should follow the evidence, and give the accused due process. This is going to be my last post in this thread. Good luck to all, and I wish I didn't even chime in. I feel like others have said similar things, in a different way, and didn't get attacked like I did. I'm just going to let this thread go away and pretend it didn't even happen.
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Yup. I want to ask the majority of the people in this thread........Did I say anything completely out of bounds? Please. I feel horrible that SS2k5 thinks I'm horrible because I'm actually in agreement with him. This is just a horrible situation and I don't think that anything what I said was out of bounds. In every case where kids make a false accusation against someone there is an adult somewhere pulling the strings, and the great majority of the time the adult becomes outed for their lies. That was and always was the point I was trying to make. Not blaming kids, blaming adults. In Heimlich's case, I don't think that it ever would have come to this point if there was a sinister plot by his ex-sister in law. It would have been exposed during the investigation. No investigator worth their salt would let it get to the point where it did if there was a plot, however plots do happen. The issue is that plots get more publicity because they are so rare, and because people see them when they do occur, they believe they happen much more often than they actually do.
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100% agreed SS2k5. My argument was never against this statement, but rather that a young child is mentally incapable of telling a believable lie, with coaching by an adult. Those are two different statements. My opinion is and always has been that in the incredibly rare cases of false accusations that end in conviction or any other outcome, that the onus falls on the investigator for not doing their job properly and nobody else. Going in this direction is good, and necessary, but......the important thing in the whole process is to come in as neutral as possible. Examples recently of investigators doing a good job unearthing false accusations are the Patrick Kane and Jussie Smollett cases. Just because they happened, doesn't mean that it happens all the time, and the opposite is true. Those are exceptions, and not the rule. I wish you actually read what I said in the 3rd PM.
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Yeah, I clearly put none of the onus on the kid and all of it on the adults around them, who are either manipulating the kid in the worst case scenario or the investigator having confirmation bias and believing an otherwise clearly coached story even if there are holes. Kids lie about things, and they don't understand the consequences. The problem here isn't the kids, but the adults around them and the situation. I want this to be perfectly clear. It all comes down to whether the investigator does their job properly. Sometimes though, people believe what they want to believe. I do not, in any circumstances, want anyone to think that I'm blaming this child. I do not, under any circumstances, want anyone to think I don't support victims of sexual assault and the (wrongly misdirected) societal stigma against them. In every case of false accusation, no matter what crime, it comes out because the investigators do their job properly and due process is given to the accused. I believe the following: 1) Accusers should be considered credible until proven otherwise 2) Due process should be given to the accused until proven guilty in a court law. I acknowledge that statement #1 is a huge societal problem that needs to be changed, but we need to be careful that we don't go too far in the opposite direction, though I do admit erring in that direction is probably more prudent.
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You are very wrong about that sir. If an adult makes a suggestion, especially a parental figure or some other authority figure, they can be duped into thinking something has happened that hasn't. 6 year olds are very gullible, and I, personally, think that there is a possibility that someone told her to say this. I know of single digit aged kids , whether disturbed or not, that wanted to get something out of their parents and learn about this and use it to blackmail them, even as young as 6-8 years old. I have seen it happen. Parenting has become completely different over the last 25 or so years because kids have realized they have this power, and they don't understand the consequences, so they use it. I have heard stories of kids being grounded in their room for misbehavior and making up stories that their parents locked them in their room, didn't feed them or let them use the restroom, etc because they were upset about being grounded and nothing more. The bottom line is by the time a kid reaches school age, in this point in history, they know they have this power and they're not afraid to use it, mostly because they don't understand the consequences. Therefore, you, as a parent, can't control your kids behavior as well as parents used to. Bottom line, your assumption is very dangerous.
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Sox Therapy Thread-Enter at your own risk
Jack Parkman replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
My best friend is a staunch Trump supporter. We talk daily, we still occasionally discuss politics, even though we agree to disagree fairly quickly and call it off. I always said I wasn't going to let politics get in the way of our friendship. Is he a bit of a bigot? Yeah. Does it bother me? Yeah. But out of all of the people I've met, he treats me as good or better than some people I consider family. I really think that bigotry is based on lack of exposure. If you never talk to a gay person, or a person of a different ethnicity you don't look at them as human beings, therefore it is easy to attack/persecute them. I grew up in an area of the Chicago Suburbs that is 97% white. I got exposed to other groups of people through other family members and family friends. I saw what it was like to live in poverty, because my dad grew up that way, and was lucky to get out, while 3 out of 4 of my aunts weren't as lucky. All of these life experiences shaped my view on humanity, and I look at the world in a completely different way due to it. If you live your entire life in a sheltered vacuum, you don't look at anyone different than you with the same level of humanity. That is my belief and I'm sticking to it. -
Sox Therapy Thread-Enter at your own risk
Jack Parkman replied to Jack Parkman's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I don't disagree with you, but.....after this offseason, with all else being equal if someone else who wasn't Jewish acted the same way, they'd be called cheap. We're not calling out JR for his ethnicity, but rather his behavior. I have nothing but the utmost respect for Jewish people and, though I'm not a religious man, If I wanted to pick a religion to follow, it would be Judaism. Their culture is beautiful, and they've faced a ridiculous amount of hardships and persecution over the millennia. I have a huge amount of respect for their self-deprecating humor, it takes a special group of people to laugh at their collective misfortune. Lots of great things about the Jewish community. I say this from the bottom of my heart. Don't ever confuse me for an anti-Semite, because that couldn't be further from the truth. -
NFL Thread 2019-2020
Jack Parkman replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
You ok giving Bush the SS spot? I'm not so sure. Idk what they should do with the remainder of their dollars. -
NFL Thread 2019-2020
Jack Parkman replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
How much space do they have left? -
That wasn't the analysis. it was "He looked good in September AND had a velocity bump in spring" that is better logic than the results of spring.
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NFL Thread 2019-2020
Jack Parkman replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
I hope not. -
NFL Thread 2019-2020
Jack Parkman replied to southsider2k5's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
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Exactly. If it happens to be right out of the gate, that is what I worry for the collective mental health of the fanbase. If Eloy comes up and struggles until August or September, the entire fanbase will collectively lose their shit, prove JR right, that this fanbase can't take a rebuild, and we will be doomed to another decade plus of mediocrity as they trade all of their talent away for a "quick fix" and end up with a 72-78 win team again, while their young players go flourish in other organizations. I warn everyone, don't lose your patience or you will be sorry.
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Eloy was going to struggle at some point. Whether it was in spring training or the regular season doesn't matter. I'm just wondering what the general reaction is going to be when it happens. even the best players go through slumps, regardless of whether it is poor luck or just sucking.
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But you should pitch exclusively down in the zone, brah!
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When Santana is ready he should kick Nova to the pen, not Banuelos, should he still have decent velocity.
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Look at what happened to Nova, a sinkerballer, today and tell me it is a good idea to work low in the zone in today's game again. Just tell me. If what you were saying is true, Ivan Nova and Dylan Covey shouldn't suck, but they do, because hitters hit low pitches hard. You must be looking at some old data or something.
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Sinkerballers get kilt in this day and age.........but don't tell that to Ray Ray.
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I warned everyone this was coming.......If Eloy hits .240/.300/.725 this yr will everyone be as willing to throw Eloy under the bus as they've done with Moncada? I don't trust any hitter that has spent a significant amount of time in the Sox org to do anything immediately when called up.
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Is this game visible in some fashion?