Jack Parkman

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 01:39 PM) That’s fair, he does take his fair share of strike 3’s. I honestly don’t know if he’s looking for one pitch and not getting it, or if he does have poor pitch recognition, as opposed to strike zone recognition. He has had his fair share of lousy calls, IMHO, but the goal is to get some more hits before he even gets to two strike counts. A lot of hitters are going to be less effective in two strike counts. First step is to start doing more damage before he gets in those counts. Also he tends to get behind in the count a lot because he's taking good pitches to hit for strikes early as well. Hopefully a lightbulb comes on in his head and he puts it all together, but he looks completely lost currently.

I'm not sure that we're confusing a good eye for complete lack of pitch recognition. He might be a patient hitter, but he looks at strike 3 way too much for me to believe that. If he was taking them and they were borderline calls that were going against him, I'd tend to agree. He's taking hangers and fastballs that are excellent pitches to hit for strike 3; pitches that cross in the heart of the strike zone.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 01:21 PM) Part of the reason he faded was that he was dealing with a hand injury in May and June of some sort. That said...if this were my franchise I would not have called Moncada up last July. He was going to have to earn his callup in my eyes by being ready at AAA. The White Sox don't play things that way and he got called up, and held his own better than I expected. But, his callup was still definitely early. I agree Balta, I don't think he was ready last year and I don't think he is now either. I'd like to see him go to Charlotte and completely destroy AAA before getting called up again .

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 11:13 AM) For a .240 player that doesn't hit 40 bombs to be "not useful" they would need to be: - Bat only - Have no baserunning value This is why it's so crazy to be this fatalistic about Moncada this early in. He has so many plus tools any one of them could be used to pull him into "good" territory. And if the hit tool develops into average, he suddenly becomes "very good". We may find that his hit tool is so off he is never an MVP player. That sucks. But man, there is a lot of baseball left to be played. Justin Smoak and Yonder Alonso 8 years into their careers suddenly became very useful players. You don't want that for Moncada, but there are good signs with him. I'm actually not trying to be horribly fatalistic about Moncada. He just looks so bad. Like worse than other Sox prospects who flopped. I mean, he looks worse than Beckham ever did. That is what is scary. It seems almost like the proverbial blind squirrel/nut analogy when he gets a hit. It seems he's slightly better than Engel, who everyone agrees isn't a major league hitter. I'm not saying he can't turn it around, but wow he looks awful currently. Replace the # 10 on the back of his jersey with #15 and what would you think?

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 10:51 AM) Ah, yes well if batting average is how we will judge Moncada's success then I imagine he will bust. IMO if you're hitting around .240 you have to hit 40 bombs or you're not useful.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 10:41 AM) Madrigal certainly seems like the most well rounded player. And hardest for the Sox to f*** up. Though I hate approaching such a high draft pick in this way. They still can't scout amateur talent very well. Fulmer and Collins were pretty bad picks. Jury's still out on Burger. Even Anderson and Rodon are iffy. They don't have the greatest track record to say the least, so you kinda have to approach it from the "who is most likely to not completely f*** up" perspective. I chalk Hansen up to blind squirrel/nut.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 10:45 AM) I'm old enough to remember when Byron Buxton was the last complete bust. He might still be. He barely cracked .250. We're completely sure about Profar.

Is Yoan Moncada Cuban for Jurickson Profar? Inquiring minds want to know. Profar was the last consensus #1 prospect in baseball to completely bust, so it isn't like scouting fails don't still happen. What I don't understand is this: is the talent difference between AAA and the majors so huge that a player can hit .340+ in AAA and can't crack Mendoza in the bigs? It just seems impossible. Moncada was hitting .340 in mid June last year in AAA.

I agree with position player. Even Madrigal, if you can get him under slot and use the savings later. Also, you have to wonder if Moncada is going to bust so maybe they should hedge their bets.

QUOTE (Tony @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 12:08 AM) And at some point, serious money is going to be spent to fill those holes. If it isn?€™t, this rebuild wasn?€™t going to work from the start, with or without Moncada. I'm almost always against signing FA, because you're almost always going to have an albatross contract halfway through. FA is for suckers. The only players worth signing to a FA deal are the guys who reach at 25 or 26 and are already established superstars, such as Harper and Machado. Baseball needs to take a note from the NHL and pay players the most when their production is highest, rather than during their declining years. In hockey as soon as a budding star's ELC is up, the teams immediately sign the player to an 8 year deal at current market value. This way, they get the best years of a player, and they're paying sticker price for the a player when they're most productive. Players get paid and ownership gets the best bang for the buck. This model also incentivizes homegrown talent to stay put.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 17, 2018 -> 12:01 AM) 2nd base is an easy position to get quality players. Gordon, Hernandez and Lowrie could have been had this past offseason for non-top prospects. Kopech has turned into the big catch from that trade. It isn't just 2B. It is the entire IF. I haven't seen enough of Sheets yet, I don't trust Collins and Skoug to be MLB catchers or 1B, they have nothing at SS and 3B. Zavala and Burger are DH candidates. They're loaded in the OF, but they're barren in the IF.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 11:54 PM) Why the panic about the rebuild? There's legit 3 players on the field today that are considered part of it. Again, it's your fault for buying into the hype this year for a team that everyone outside of Chicago thought would be horrible. Mostly because I think they can't recover if Moncada busts. They don't have enough IF talent. I've always thought that if Moncada fails, the rebuild is toast.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 11:53 PM) Wasn’t the last decade our punishment? Nope not painful enough. It must be an era of futility that rivals what happened in the wake of the Black Sox scandal. That took the Sox 30 years to recover from. We are a decade into our 30 year penance. Those 11 seasons of having the 1 up on the Cubs were fun though.

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 11:52 PM) Too early to talk to Mets about Welington? It's not like Manny is signing here anyways Yeah we can kiss any chance of Machado or Harper goodbye.

Also, wouldn't it be Sox luck to have nothing go right? This could be our payback from the baseball gods for winning that 05 series. Suddenly, everything goes wrong.

Hope for strides from Moncada, Lopez, Giolito, and Fulmer, and also that Rodon comes back ok from his shoulder surgery. Also need Jones, Abreu and Rondon to be tradable in July. That is all I hope for this season. I feel like a moron to have thought this was an 81 win team this spring. LMFAO. Also, no need to waste Kopech or Eloy service time on this trainwreck of a season

QUOTE (kwolf68 @ Apr 16, 2018 -> 11:30 PM) I was called out for saying the Sox would be 25-66 after 81 games. Now I am beginning to think that's optimistic. They have probably less than 5 major league quality players currently. I can't think of anyone other than Lopez, Abreu and Jones.

If ever there was a team that could win less than 40 games it might be this one.

Hahahahaha. This is reaching fun-bad level. They might challenge the 62 Mets for all time futility.

What the f*** was Yolmer doing there???

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Apr 15, 2018 -> 08:49 PM) 44 year old Bartolo Colon perfect through 7 innings... against the ASTROS at that.... And Verlander having a game that is shades of Freddy Garcia vs Johan Santana in the Hump Dome from August 2005. One hit, a HR. Edit: Leadoff BB for Colon to start the 8th. Now ova.

Not enough upside in a guard to take one top 10. He could be Steve Hutchinson, and make 12 pro bowls and still not be worth a top 10 pick. Once you get to around 18-20 it is ok, but not until then.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 14, 2018 -> 08:37 AM) All the pieces are in place. OK Wanne. I know this was meant to be sarcasm, but I honestly think they need to trade down in the draft. Too many holes to fill. Unless Chubb unexpectedly drops to 8, there isn't anyone worth the 8th pick. The best chance for them to do that is if only 3 QBs go in the top 7.

In other news, water is wet.

Also lost in the shuffle is that I think that Moncada only has 1 option left. If they're going to send him down, they have to make sure he REALLY needs it.