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Thanks, sorry to take up space going OT.

QUOTE (scenario @ Jun 22, 2009 -> 07:13 PM) Check out the Draft-Tracker on the new FutureSox.com site. BTW, what happened to the page style layout there?

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 22, 2009 -> 07:02 PM) Come on front office.... get at least one of Dane Williams or Brian Goodwin signed!!!! 2/3 of those two and Thompson would leave me very happy.

Bayne is signing according to this article! LINKY Very nice work so far.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Apr 5, 2008 -> 10:38 AM) So, basically you dont like Gavin? His fastball is not 90 mph. You're right, it's more like 88-94.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Apr 1, 2008 -> 02:43 AM) holy crap...can we get a 2nd source Ask and ye shall receive... LINKY

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 03:39 PM) Well DLS is most likely more than 2 years away, Gio is likely 1-2 years away, I guess you are just arguing semantics and then want to have some sly remark how Ive never seen Gio play. Not at all. Please don't get all up in arms and take offense to what I said. It was just to point out that after everything I saw from him personally last ST, when I saw a guy who wasn't far off at all, almost one year later I have to believe he is just that much more ready.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 03:18 PM) I guess its possible that Gio could play AAA this year, and then make it into the Sox rotation next year. He has pitched over 150 innings in each of the last 2 seasons, so its not out of the realm of possibilities. That of course would be based on him doing well in AAA this year. The only problem with that is he already had to repeat AA once, so if he has to repeat AAA, that puts him at 2 years away. And I meant as a starter, he could be a relief pitcher faster. You say it isn't out of the realm of possibilities for him to be in the majors in 2009, whereas I say it isn't out of the realm of possibilities that he doesn't arrive until 2010. That's fine, it's just a matter of opinion, so it doesn't bother. My comment was just over the fact that you stated it as almost a "matter of fact" that Gio is over two years away, when IMO, he is not. You sound pretty confident in thinking he won't arrive until 2010, which just confuses me as someone who has seen Gio pitch 4 times live, and once on TV.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 12, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) Well guys like Gio, DLS are over 2 years away from MLB level DLS yes, Gio no. Gio is much closer to the MLB than "over 2 years away." He may not even be a year away depending on how things shake down.

QUOTE(southsida86 @ Nov 9, 2007 -> 08:02 PM) I also want to see that fastball touching 94 like in the scouting reports. Go through the Pitch F/X on the Gamedays over at MLB.com from his starts this season. Pitch F/X has proved to be VERY accurate and consistent on tracking pitches, much more so than the widely fluctuating ballpark guns you see on your tv screen(especially USCF one which for the last two years has been rather inconsistent). I always try to have Gameday on when I'm at home watching the games on Extra Innings, because the consistency of the Pitch F/X is really good(it has gotten a lot of praise for the consistency and accuracy from scouts and the like). He hit 93 plenty of times, and 94 a good amount too throughout the season. The very large majority of times he was between 89-92, and there isn't much reason to be bothered by him sitting where he is comfortable throwing more strikes and getting more movement. Besides, reports had him "occasionally touching 94" which if you look at it, is exactly what he does. I think his adjusting to being a guy who will now be counted on to throw near 200 innings a year has a lot to do with it too.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 06:51 PM) He's a White Sox prospect. Why do I feel he's got a bad ceiling? He doesn't have particularly noteworthy stuff. That's about the long and short of it. So, to repeat the question head asked you, have you seen him pitch?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 06:36 PM) You were making incredibly sarcastic comments to hitlesswonder. I wasn't "attacking" you -- I was definitely teasing you, but I thought you could handle such, especially when you're going off about how someone claimed Egbert will never make it when they didn't say such a thing. And you think I should grow up? Your suggestion is noted. Now I think you should grow up. His velocity is mid-80s, if I recall correctly, and he's beating up minor leaguers in a pitcher's park at an age where success doesn't necessarily indicate he's got a huge ML future. He definitely doesn't belong on that list, and it still baffles me that anybody thinks so. I have never seen him pitch live, but I can say I have seen a lot of scouting reports on him, and have read everything from 86-92 listed as his FB velocity in varying reports. I do however live in Scottsdale, and will definitely be going to see him and the Desert Dogs this fall, so I can tell you what I see when I go.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 01:37 PM) Thanks for that info on Egbert and Welcome Aboard!!!! Well thanks for the welcome, but my info was on Webb. I was just merely commenting on a claim that he was a guy who threw gas, when he very rarely throws above 88-91.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 11, 2007 -> 07:39 AM) He really sticks to a sinker, curve, change mix IIRC. His curve and sinker are plus-plus. That is correct. His change is nothing to sell short though. He throws it at around 81 and when he has a good feel for it, he will use it all night long mixed in with his sinker. The thing that makes his curve so effective is that he changes the speed on it, thus changing it's action, all the way from the low to high 70's.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 02:56 PM) Webb throws in the mid low-to-mid 90's... As did 2000-2003 Lowe. Wang can touch 95. But you know, don't let facts get in the way of a good argument. Webb throws his sinker between 88-91 MPH, and it looks the most effective(almost a heavy lefty slider) when it's sitting at about 89. He pops a four seamer in there at about 93 or 94 once and while, which adds to the sinkers effectiveness, but he makes his living throwing around 90 (mostly just under) with that sinker for the good part of games.