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QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) I know it's not in Jerry's nature, but wouldn't it make sense to pick up some of Q's money to extract more value from the Pirates? Then you can let Cutch regain value during the season, trade him at the deadline, and move Meadows in. Sox could ask for Glasnow, Bell, and Newman. I'm not that familiar with all of the prospects but, with all of the names mentioned it seems the most valuable piece to a trade would start with Meadows. Am I wrong? Of course the Pirates would have to say yes to that.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) I guess I'm crazy, but if Rutherford/Newman are in the return, we very may have acquired 4 top 100 hitting prospects, or at the very least 3 potential top 50 hitting prospects and a top 150. bmags, do you have some current info on Newman? I read something that seemed to indicate a light hitting SS with limited power?? How would he compare with the SS the Cubs shipped to the yanks? Thanks.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:12 AM) Just saying it's a rebroadcast. Wasn't trying to be a dick. Sorry. I just hadn't seen it posted on here this Am and thought it was live news, We're OK!

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 11:06 AM) When you say "just now", you mean two hours ago when it was on the first time. Wow get up on the wrong side of the bed!!! Sorry my life has other things to do except watch TV all day! Get a life! Now, was your response really necessary?

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 22, 2016 -> 10:54 AM) Not how we roll. Rosenthal on MLBN just now says with the signing of Nova that the Pirates could be more inclined to add Glasnow as a piece to the White Sox.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 12:20 PM) Wow.. wonder who the Marlins (and Nationals for that matter) look at now for a closer... I've heard the name Colome, of the Rays, mentioned a few times over the past week.

Just listening to ESPN radio saying Fowler signed with Cardinals.

QUOTE (HeGone7 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 03:58 PM) I agree with you. This board is a small sample size of the fanbase. Much of what I have heard has been contrary to the excitement that the OP wrote. A large contingency of every fan base sees things differently from the rest. They care more about the star players, the team, going to games and couldn't care less about prospects. Those people are the ones who are sad about Sale and Eaton, eventually the rest. I heard so many people call into 670/1000 that sounded genuinely depressed and since they don't follow prospects, it's confusing to them what we're doing. They just see it as get rid of the bad guys and add more good ones. Or worse, they like guys like Saladino who don't belong in a lineup everyday for a WS caliber team. Using my own personal relationships as an example, my dad is old school. He doesn't care about the sabermetrics or prospects and what not. It was irrevelant to him growing up so it isn't something he proactively wants to learn. He thinks the front office kept messing up and this is the result. That group of people are the unhappy ones. They aren't going to suddenly become guys who follow prospects or dive deeper into stats - they're just going to be angry. To your point, it's going to get uglier before it gets better. I for one may be like your dad and be "old school". He may not be as "old school" as I because I was in 7th grade for the "59 series against the LAD. I'm not much for sabermetrics but, I do know what I saw on the field the last several years and it was not pretty. Give me the prospects now and keep them coming. I'm excited to watch this rebuild and hope for the best. Hopefully RH and the FO will continue the good work. Go Sox!

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 01:15 PM) http://www.statcorner.com/CatcherReport.php Way down the list. Hey, look at #4! Suzuki. Wow! Thanks for the info.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 01:26 PM) "closer Todd Frazier". Did they want Frazier or Robertson? Also, I don't know why this wasn't done to get them to include Robles and a couple decent lottery tickets if it was Robertson. Talking White Sox next on MLBN

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) He's top 5 in pitch framing last season. Just wondering what Suzuki is like??

QUOTE (peppers312 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 11:08 AM) but NONE of these kids are going to break with the team after ST ends. they all need more development. i'm sure next year's roster is going to look pretty s***ty, so i'm not sure that's worth going to watch. and in all honestly, upper management deserves the empty seats next season for all the s*** we've endured as fans paying for a craptastic products since 2005. At least we can look forward to a high draft pick for playing bad baseball and as part of this rebuild.

QUOTE (HBaines03 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:50 PM) I understand the reason for the rebuild and I think you trade whomever if it is a quality return. My concern is more if these prospects will be prepped and directed in the best manner possible to reach their potential and make the majors. My concern is if the major league coaching staff is up to the task of getting the best out of these players once they make the club. It was just 2-3 years ago we looked like a very talented, young cost controlled group and saw very weak results. I think our coaching staff did a very poor job of getting the best out of the group of men they had available. Thoughts? I have heard Renteria supposedly works well with young players. An upgrade from RV. I just wish Renteria had been able to pick his own coaching staff.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:48 PM) No it's full rebuild time. no half ass effort go ALL the way! I agree. I worry about keeping Q and having him pitch for a team that might struggle to win 60 games. Another sell high candidate.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:17 PM) Can you imagine it if the Sox with a minuscule payroll decided to go balls to the wall and sign Bryce Harper? Almost a zero chance of it actually happening, but the payroll commitments will be so small at the time, I really expect the Sox will be in on him to some degree. Did I read that Machado is a FA in 2018? If so and we are dreaming I could see him at 3B for the White Sox.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:45 PM) He makes a good point. What is the infatuation with pitching pitching pitching? Then we had the best pitcher in America (Sale) and dealt him. We are a weird organization. We did get the #1 MLB prospect in return for Sale. Also a hard throwing righty with good promise. The next deal brought us the #1 MLB pitching prospect. Hahn isn't done. Stop the craziness.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:37 PM) There's a lot of 76 win teams out there to root for. They're not in short supply and they're not fun to watch Richard Justice up next on the MLB network to talk about Q and the trade talks.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:40 PM) Which we have not done in any sense. We still don't have any position players. Moncada???

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 04:28 PM) This times a million. southsider2k5, I have had no reason to watch the White Sox past May in the last several years. At least now there will be light at the end of the tunnel. I'll gladly sacrifice April and May baseball for a team that down the road could have sustained success (a term Hahn likes to use a lot). That's the goal. I support that goal 100%. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen but they are making the right moves as of now. I'm with you!! Just heard MLB TV to have a press conference on the trade around the 6:00PM hour. Didn't say central or eastern time.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 02:36 PM) A strong half by Abreu could make him one of the most valuable bats at the deadline He can play crappy defense at 1B or DH for an American league team Am I nuts, or do the Rangers appear to be in serious need of a 1B/DH? Why wouldn't they be interested in Abreu? (Side note...wow that Shin Soo Choo signing has backfired on the Rangers) I was watching MLB this afternoon and it was reported the Rangers were not looking to add a marquee FA. Cost?? Abreu would hit well in that park. If Abreu was sent to Texas what would a return look like? Watching MLB and they just said Sox and Washington working on an Eaton trade.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 06:44 AM) The more Nats get squeezed the better for us. Lost out on Davis now too. That is a very competitive package, had to be hard to turn down. I keep hearing there is a snag in the Soler Davis deal???

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 7, 2016 -> 07:51 AM) https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/806495829603287040 Makes sense. Yankees or Dodgers probably. Watching MLB late last night and I believe they said Yankees have made offers to both Chapman and Jansen. Now just waiting to see what develops. Today will hopefully be a big day for Sox!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 6, 2016 -> 03:10 PM) I think they will go the scorched earth route. But let's say they don't do that. Today's trade would give the Sox a great infield of Frazier, Anderson, Moncada and Abreu. I guess they could sign two journeyman starting pitchers in free agency and still have a chance of contending. Fat chance, however. The scorched earth scenario is coming. I don't think they care that the team will lose 100 games 2-3 seasons in a row. They want the Cub-like rebuild. I'd like to see that Cub-like rebuild also. Waiting for the next move.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:23 PM) Joel Sherman tweeted that neither Houston, Washington nor Boston are willing to give the Sox the "anchor player" the Sox are insisting on in a Sale trade. If that's the case then f*** them all...you keep him. Mark Mark and others, If the Sox don't get an "anchor player" for Sale what could they get in return for Quintana? Any chance the Sox start throwing his name out there to see what he would get in return?

QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Nov 2, 2016 -> 11:56 PM) Yup. The 'Sox better make some big changes with the organization. I have absolutely no faith that big changes are in the future. Does anyone know if all the coaching decisions were those of Renteria or were they forced on him? I was thinking there could have been some new blood to that coaching staff.