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QUOTE (flavum @ May 30, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) And no excuse for what has happened over the last three weeks. This isn't regressing to the mean. It's bigger than that. One of my sons was at O'Hare this morning and saw Thome. Hopefully he was on his way to New York to inform Ventura he has been fired!

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 28, 2016 -> 04:45 PM) He left Robo in to get torched until it was a one run game... then decides to go with a kid. Robin is a f***ing idiot! The manager's job is to put players in position where they can succeed, Robin failed at his main job today. Thankfully after 2016 we still have one more year of the 3 year plan.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 28, 2016 -> 01:30 PM) Hawk just took a nice little shot at Robin. Off topic question guys, but I need your help. One of the sons is in from Florida and we were talking Sox and broadcast. A few weeks ago Stone was gone for a few games and Hawk was teamed up with a guy who would not stop talking. I mean this guy wouldn't let Hawk get a word in edge wise. I thought maybe Plesac but just don't remember. Anyone able to help out? Thanks!

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 23, 2016 -> 07:16 PM) This is bulls***. Anyone else have the game blacked out currently in their area? Off and on for the last hour or more. not seeing it now.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 29, 2016 -> 06:11 PM) Cut bait he needs released. I was hoping to wake up this morning to find out he had been released.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Mar 20, 2016 -> 02:58 PM) Of course he has "complete faith" in the front office that has provided fans with six losing seasons in the last nine years. Loyalty without accountability is the White Sox mantra don't you know! Mark So much for the John McDonough type figure I would like to have in our front office. Looks like just more of the same in the future.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Mar 20, 2016 -> 09:29 AM) This is all just one more reason for the city of Chicago to root for the Cubs. We're all die hards, but really guys, ask yourself this: If I weren't blindly loyal to the Sox, and if I hadn't been a fan, my whole life, for which team would I be rooting, this season? The North Side has a terrific young team, with a great manager and we have.....well, this?!!!! Way to go La Roche, Sale and Eaton. Great job. How idiotic!!!! I can't ever imagine myself rooting for that north side team. The north side team has a great manager? I guess if you like the clubhouse being turned into a petting zoo. I guess if you enjoy seeing your coaches arrive at spring training jumping out of a car dressed as clowns. Nope, you can have that north side team all to yourself!

QUOTE (VAfan @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 01:58 PM) Here's my take. First, the Nightengale story -- which indicates the paper talked with players and perhaps coaches who said they had an issue with Drake's non-stop presence -- indicates that KW wasn't making it up about there being an issue within the clubhouse about this. That suggests that Eaton's and Sale's complaints notwithstanding, that the Sox brass was responding to its players. Second, the "promise" to LaRoche to allow his kid with the team was certainly kept for 2015. But since it wasn't in his contract, and since both his performance was horrible and players and perhaps coaches complained to management about the situation, then management was perfectly within its rights to ask LaRoche to "dial it back." Indeed, what would it have said about Sox management if they ignored the complaints and put the wishes of arguably the WORST player on the team last year ahead of their concerns? Seems to me like the Sox made a reasonable request for LaRoche to amend his position. The fact he didn't take it was HIS CHOICE. Sox didn't ask him to, or force him to resign. So, on both of these scores, it seems to me the Sox were well within their rights, and really had no choice but to ask LaRoche to accommodate his arrangement to mesh with his current teammates and coaches. LaRoche was also free to quit, which he did. There really aren't any villains if you look at it that way. Where things went bad was during the clubhouse meeting. At this point, certain hotheads on the team decided to get their noses out of joint over KW asking LaRoche to "dial it back." To me, these hotheads are the ONLY people who caused this issue to blow up the way it did. (KW did also blow up at one point after LaRoche completely ignored his request, but this was not unlike any company manager getting pissed when his employees openly flout one of his requests.) Did they think KW was lying to them about some players and/or coaches coming to KW to say they had a problem? If so, then how did Nightengale's newspaper receive the exact same info from these players, who have to speak annonymously? And, are they so out of touch with their teammates that they claim the team was 100% united behind LaRoche when it is obvious from the above that they weren't? (Not to make this a racial issue, but it's quite interesting that we've heard from a lot of the white players, but almost nothing from any of the Latin players.) Moreover, do you really want to go to the mat against the wishes of your colleagues over the presence of a 14-year-old kid in the clubhouse, who has nothing to do with your job, or the success of the team? Isn't this completely disrespectful of your teammates? Sale, Eaton, et al are defending an absurd requirement that Adam LaRoche chose to lay down for his continued presence on a baseball team, when if he looked in the mirror and at his own performance, he should have realized that he couldn't meet even replacement level standards of play any more and should retire out of dignity and respect for his team. The idea that KW should "resign" from the Sox over this is utterly absurd. Seems to me that Sox management have been the ONLY ones in this saga who put the interests of the team first. I like your take. Very well put.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) I have a difficult believing KW just decided out of the clear blue to scale back Drake's presence in the club house and on the field without something being said to him first. Eaton is one to talk about KW " throwing it out there". He's been throwing plenty of stuff "out there" on Twitter. He's parading Twitter like a politician trolling for votes. Good to see Eaton and his big mouth are so focused on the upcoming season. I used to like Eaton. If I were Eaton I would not want to get on the bad side of JR.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 04:12 PM) If Drake was still with the team, he wouldn't have fallen. That's not even funny. Try to be more creative.

QUOTE (Saufley @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 09:37 AM) If the players were to handle this issue can you imagine the division in the clubhouse. At least now everyone is mad at KW and not at each other among the players and coaches. Oh by the way, I'm done with this issue. We seem to be going in circles. On to baseball talk.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 09:00 AM) They asked Shark about it, and while he tried to stay out of it, just said that was White Sox business, but said the kid was a great kid, like a mini clubbie who didn't get paid, always working, cleaning spikes, picking up around the clubhouse, he agreed with you and thought the problem was because it wasn't handled by the players. Maddon said on the Cubs, this type of thing would be a players issue he wants no part of. And the quotes by Sale on day 1 line up with this as he didn't think it was KW's call because he wasn't in the clubhouse enough to determine clubhouse issues. If the players were to handle this issue can you imagine the division in the clubhouse. At least now everyone is mad at KW and not at each other among the players and coaches.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 19, 2016 -> 08:03 AM) A deal is a deal. There are things in all of our lives where we were beneficiaries of great deals, and some where all of us have been on the short end. That's life, the White Sox wanted Adam LaRoche on their team. In order to get him to agree to sign, they had to agree to grant his son access. The White Sox checked into it. He had the same arraignment in Washimgton, and Rizzo didn't lose his mind. They agreed to allow him the access so LaRoche signed with the Sox. Now LaRoche didn't play well so apparently to some, agreements made and word given, are then eligible to be broken. I disagree. They were 2 weeks away from being done with spring training, and he supposedly was at 120 games last year so 40 about KW's new magic number. You deal with it, and then change the rule. Just asking but, was the deal for the kid to be around 100% of the time or was KW right in asking him to dial it back?

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:38 PM) Dan Hayes ‏@CSNHayes 37s38 seconds ago Adam LaRoche's retirement paperwork has been filed. So, what do the Sox do with all of those AL and Drake bobbleheads they were going to use on their father son day?

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) After a few warnings, I'm sure Kenny said something like, 'If you don't dial it back, he won't be allowed here at all." Then LaRoche takes that, and stretches the truth. I'm so sick of LaRoche. Go away. I don't think Kenny or the management staff come off good here either, but LaRoche is a dips*** that doesn't deserve one word of praise over this issue. My take too. If LaRoche felt he was really in the right he should have asked to talk to JR.

QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 18, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) Probably best to just fire KW at this point. He's the president and is showing no ability to handle the team. This will die down eventually, and go back to normal. But if he's this bad at dealing with this stuff... Do you guys have any confidence in KW dealing with a domestic violence incident or something like that? I said a while back the Sox needed a front office move to someone like a John McDonough type individual. Maybe we see that now or should I say hopefully.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:26 PM) Not sure, my guess would be that the Sox would have to pay LaRoche $13 million Then I'd tell him to get back to the team and hope for that bounce back season.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 03:15 PM) I HIGHLY doubt he'll "unretire" now. He's not a moron. He has to know all the hoopla surrounding this incident and I can't see him going back into the Sox clubhouse again. IF he came back to the Sox I'd like to watch his first at bat at the Cell this year. The boos would be rocking the stadium.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 17, 2016 -> 02:41 PM) Here's Sullivan. He has some interesting questions. http://www.redeyechicago.com/ct-no-winners...317-column.html I'd prefer Sullivan just continue to cover his beloved north side team.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 04:51 PM) Except everyone loves him so there's that. Evidently not everyone loves him. I wonder who voiced complaints?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:56 PM) 2016 $22,750,000 2017 $22,750,000 2018 $22,750,000 2019 $22M Vesting Option No thank you.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:09 PM) Austin Jackson double off Garza. Probably won't be on tv because Tigers/Astros still going. I just turned on the game and I see SF vs Sea

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:18 PM) Again, you're just ignoring my explanation and are completely misinterpreting my stance. Taking me out of context and telling me to chill, saying "smh" (these aren't you, just examples) doesn't make sense when I agree with you guys. I didn't tell you to chill. I have no problem with what you posted.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:14 PM) Taking my post out of context and ignoring my explanation of it seems to be popular right now Everything will be fine once the Sox dedicate the 2016 season to Adam and his son.

QUOTE (Chi Town Sox @ Mar 16, 2016 -> 03:05 PM) I gave AL the benefit of the doubt until this came out. LaRoche isn't holding up his end of the contract (to perform) so there is nothing wrong with the Sox asking him to dial back his son being there. I agree 100%