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QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) Thank you for giving us Sox fans a place to talk Sox Baseball. Best place for all Sox related discussions. When I am looking for White Sox news I go to Soxtalk. Good conversation shared with great fans. Thanks for the opportunity!

QUOTE (WBWSF @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) Am I the only White Sox fan that is glad the White Sox didn't give the type of money and contract length the Cubs did to Heyward, Zobrist and Lackey? I can't imagine the outrage we would have seen posted!

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) LOL just the title of this thread is hilarious. I don't get it Steve. It's comparing 2015 stats. Did you read the post? What's your question or input?

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) Oh Jesus Christ, is this a real thread? It is and there have been quite a few intelligent comments. Amazing how many Sox fans appreciate a player who contributes and also has a team friendly contract. Let's hope that one and a few other team friendly contracts will help land the big bat we need.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:39 PM) Ofcourse they get a ton of credit. But if we're doing about player comparisons I'm not taking Eaton over Jason Heyward. I think comparing their contract status is silly. The circumstances are completely different for each player. Comparing contract status is not silly. For what is being paid I will take Eaton and his contract everyday.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I love when people throw the 4 times number out there without context. If Adam Eaton hit the open market today you think he would be signing for a reasonable deal after what Heyward just signed for? No. Heyward hit the market at 26(1 day younger than Rizzo btw). That almost never happens. It's a fairly poor comparison and done without thinking about the situation both are in. The situation is real and they are both signed for what they are! How can that not be a fair comparison? Think about it. You're wrong!

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 01:25 PM) and you'll be the only one. Congrats. Thanks!! You think we're playing fantasy baseball here?

I'll bet Adam Eaton is feeling underpaid right now. 2015 stats: Eaton 175/610, R 98, HR 14, RBI 56, SB 18, BA .287 Heyward 160/547, R 79, HR 13, RBI 60, SB 23, BA .293

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) I'm gonna go watch Sox World Series highlights now Pressure is on White sox FO. Better make some news to be relevant in this town!

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:27 PM) I'm not that upset over this honestly. Yeah, his defense is great but he has only 15 homer power. That's not worth $200 million in my mind. I'm with you on this one.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 12:23 PM) And the only thing we've done is sign 2 catchers and Brett Lawrie. We're doomed. Next year is going to be so bad. We're all gonna die. Don't worry. This is only year two of our three year plan.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 11, 2015 -> 10:20 AM) 19 HR 68 RBI 17 SB 72 BB 123 K .268 AVG .353 OBP .431 SLG .784 OPS Averages in career. He hasn't hit more than 14 HR in 4 seasons. Basically his career averages are close to Adam Eaton's 2015 season. Let some other team overpay for him. I don't want him on the Sox!

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) This is the White Sox we are talking about whose biggest contract ever handed out was $68 million over six years. They are going to double that amount to give to Justin Upton? That just is not the White Sox. I hate to admit it but, you're probably right.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 04:19 PM) i usually have something that i will pipe in and say, but for the life of me, i am at a lost. only reasoning i can think of..... it is what the market is. 154 games, 13 HR, 60 RBI, 23 SB, .293 BA and a Gold Glove OF. Just wanted to take another look at Heyward's stats from last year. $200 mil. Wow!! I guess it truly is what the market is.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) just a long shot here,but can this be an idea of the sox making plans for a new of"er to come in?? If so. I hope it gets done before everyone leaves the winter meetings. We need a little more excitement and promise from this team.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Avi is the dumbest base runner in the history of the game and a terrible defensive player. I don't care what any stat says. What Avi does in the batter's box is fine it what he does when the game is being played nad he is not in the batter's box that is troubling. and when the Sox traded for Avi everyone had such high hopes. Who were the scouts that said he was a minny Migi? Who were they?

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 03:54 PM) would love for the sox to swoop in and make a last minute bid and win. I appreciate your hope for a miracle but I'm not expecting one. I for one would like to see Upton sign but worry about how a $200 mil deal for Heyward would affect an Upton contract.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) Who would the closer be for the Sox if he was moved? I feel like if the Sox want to compete, they need an elite closer. We all remember the 'closer by committee' disaster in 2014. I don't want a repeat of that. As I said in my post, what about developing a closer from our organization. With all of these young power arms is there a closer there? Robertson is one of our real chips for a trade and it might be worth to trade. Just throwing out ideas.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 11:25 AM) @JonHeymanCBS Dodgers have moved on from chapman and are weighing Andrew miller among other pitchers and also hitters What about our own David Robertson. I liked the signing of Robertson last year and would not mind keeping him. But, I wonder what his worth is? If Hahn could trade him for another position player who could help why not deal him. Why not look at our own organization and try to develop a young arm into a closer?

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 10:06 PM) So, if we trade for Frazier and sign Upton? You'd still want to sell with all that money coming off the books the next year? My thought only is that I believe we would have to give up too much for two years of Frazier. I'm satisfied, for now, with Lawrie at third. Hopefully another move is made before the end of the winter meetings. I'd love to see the bat of Upton added.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2015 -> 08:58 AM) Remember, keep this thread strictly to plans of what Sox could/should do given the current moves already. Do not stray off topic. Sign OF Justin Upton 6 years/125 million Trade OF Avail Garcia, SS Tim Anderson, SP Frankie Montas, and 2B Micah Johnson to the Reds for Todd Frazier Trade RP Zach Putnam to the Diamondbacks for Competitive B Draft Pick Trade 1B Adam LaRoche + Cash to the Pirates for 1 lower level minor leaguer Lineup: LF Adam Eaton (L) DH Melky Cabrera (S) 1B Jose Abreu RF Justin Upton 3B Todd Frazier 2B Brett Lawrie C Alex Avila/Dioner Navarro (L) (S) CF Trayce Thompson SS Tyler Saladino 2B/SS Carlos Sanchez (S), OF J.B Shuck (L), C Alex Avila (L)/Dioner Navarro (S), Rule 5 pick/FA/Mike Olt Rotation: SP Chris Sale (L) SP Jose Quintana (L) SP Carlos Rodon (L) SP Erik Johnson SP John Danks (L) Bullpen: RP Jacob Turner (long man) RP Jake Petricka RP Dan Jennings (L) RP Tommy Kahnle RP Zach Duke (L) RP Nate Jones CP David Robertson Thoughts? Exactly the kind of thread I wanted to start today!! Justin Upton! I was thinking 5 years for $125 mil. A nice fit for the Cell. We need that power bat and then go onto the next priority. Get Upton!!

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 07:41 PM) What a dud of a Winter meetings for White Sox fans. Hopefully they will make some moves soon. Get some buzz going. Exactly. As I posted on another thread the winter meetings have been as depressing as the regular season. Tough to be excited about this team.

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 9, 2015 -> 05:18 PM) KW is the Executive Vice President, he is in charge. What about Kenny screams out to you that he isnt trying to call shots or at the very least have a voice in whats going on? He is constantly in the media spouting off like he is very much involved. I hope KW's ego doesn't screw up anything.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) WhiteSox currently have picks #10 and #30. Looking like they'll be #10 and something around #25 overall. I'm not into the college ball so what kind of a player will be there at #10?

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) I like the Lackey deal for the Cubs even more now I don't and I couldn't care less about the cubs and what they do! Post this on their message board!