Capn12

I for one am all for letting the team play the way it is. Last time we went and got 2 players, we were riding an emotional high, then we got new additions, and tanked the next week. We have the talent now, question is can JM put them where they need to be.

How many of these games did run support matter in? Jun 11 SFO L 4-11 L 4.1 6 8 8 2 3 4 2 10 0 0 90.1 5.18 .292 Jun 6 @ LOS L 1-2 L 6.0 4 2 2 1 0 6 2 9 0 0 86.0 4.60 .291 Jun 1 @ CLE L 4-5 - 6.1 6 1 1 0 2 4 2 8 0 0 80.0 4.72 .297 Date Opponent Score Dec IP H R ER HR BB K W L SV BS IP ERA BAA May 26 @ TOR L 5-11 L 6.0 5 6 2 0 2 1 2 8 0 0 73.2 5.01 .300 May 21 TOR W 6-5 - 6.0 10 5 5 0 4 4 2 7 0 0 67.2 5.19 .306 May 16 @ MIN L 3-18 L 3.1 10 10 9 1 2 0 2 7 0 0 61.2 4.96 .299 May 11 @ SEA L 2-7 L 5.0 9 5 4 2 6 3 2 6 0 0 58.1 3.86 .280 May 6 @ OAK L 0-6 L 7.1 7 6 2 1 2 2 2 5 0 0 53.1 3.54 .267 Date Opponent Score Dec IP H R ER HR BB K W L SV BS IP ERA BAA Apr 30 OAK L 1-4 L 6.0 9 4 4 1 1 2 2 4 0 0 46.0 3.72 .272 Apr 25 MIN L 1-6 L 7.0 5 3 3 0 2 4 2 3 0 0 40.0 3.38 .257 Apr 20 CLE L 4-7 L 4.1 11 7 7 3 2 2 2 2 0 0 33.0 3.27 .264 Koch's pitching resulted in 6 DIRECT losses where the score was either tied, or we were ahead when he came in. Buehrle's count is 9, where he gave up 4 or more runs in a game that was lost by the Sox. I'm not saying anything bad about Buehrle, but I think that when Gordon falters, and he will, Koch should be given his job back. Foulke struggled early last year, JM took the job from him, and FOulke was the best bullpen pitcher in the second half last year. Do we ever learn from our mistakes?

The difference acutally is that Buehrle got the opportunity to straighten it out, Koch apparently may not. I'm sorry, but starting 2-10, and having blown 4 saves out of the first 15 is NO WHERE CLOSE in terms of a letdown.

Being the teams Ace, and starting the season 2-10 is awful, but Buehrle turned it around...who's to say Koch won't either?

Yes, 11 out of 15 save opps is AWFUL!!!

I'm left speechless after that....that was a joke right, abozichu?

Nice wsc....where is that, a videogame store? All you others, you make it sound like the guy is the 2nd coming of Jamie Navarro. His numbers are NOT THAT bad. Yeah, he has struggled, but come on!

Ah, yes...the National Work-release program, also known as the NBA....

Seems to me like we may need to start pushing a few of the guys from Birmingham up to AAA. There are quite a few guys there that we think highly of that are in that 24-25 age range, where they need to be making the moves necessary to get them MLB ready. Pacheco is 24, Dunn is 25, Meaux is 24.

Ginter is 3-2, 3.00 ERA and 11 saves since taking over the closing role. 57 IP, 52 H, only 2 HR allowed, 19 BB and 43 K's. Not too shabby

I personally would be satisfied with a bullpen that consisted of White, Gordon, Marte, Wunsch, Koch and Wright, with Porzio as the swingman. Wright becomes your long reliever, White and Wunsch are your situational guys, Marte and Gordon are the setup guys, and Koch is closing when all is right. Porzio starts as the #5, or relieves if his spot is skipped. With Colon, Buehrle, Loaiza and Garland...thats got potential to be a damn fine staff. I would like a lefty at the end of the rotation as the #5 though. Can Porzio do it consistently? Time will tell I guess.

I agree, Wrights mechanics are not there right now...and I still have confidence in him being a real solid #3-4 starter with us. But with Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland guaranteed to be our top 3 next year, and IF Colon begins to pitch consistently like he is capable of, thats a Top 4 rotation that can compete with anyone in the AL IMO. The key is, with Colons season going the way it has so far, will it bring his cost down enough to where KR will resign him?

If Wunsch AND Wright come back up, who goes? Sanders will probably be #1 chosen to go back, but who else?

I'm all for Mike Porzio filling the role that JM proposed to him, where he is the 5th starter, but is still available to pitch in the Bullpen if someone gets shelled as a starter. He can go 5 IP every 5 days, and still be available if necessary. Face it, we don't really have ANYONE in AAA that is MLB ready to pitch, even Wright is struggling, and Stewart is struggling mightily. I have no reasons to not like Porzio yet, he has kept us in both games he has started, which is the #5 starters role.

In my opinion, no...he should be in LF...Rowand in CF...and blockhead Lee traded for someone worthwile

I still long for Ray-ray at second (at least till we got Alomar, but he'll be gone after this year). Sure, he went into Ray Durham, Homerun hitter mode at some point every year, but I still liked him

The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances. or they could be prior, wood, peavy, and some of the better know prospects. i would rather have foulke now and a chance to win now and take that crap shot at a comp pick. i don't know about you, but i am tired or waiting for tomorrow f*** yeah, me too...but I dont think that we have lost too many games based on the closer alone. There are SO many problems with this team, at least there were early in April and May.

Sorry, I'm completely white...cant help you there

Yeah, i try not to bite down on too many rib bones.

Colon,....thats a whole other story..but not one that can be blamed on KW, for once. The guy just doesnt give a damn apparently..or he doesnt want to be a power pitcher anymore.

The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. all depends if we lost in the playoff b/c of a lack of a closer. cotts is good and i like him, but that comp pick could be a hell of a player. and that comp pick could be Scott Ruffcorn, Eddie Pearson, Mike Caruso, Corwin Malone....crap shoot it is, and I'd rather have proven players, then random chances.

and that bat-boy in 2000...what the hell was his name?

I, by no means, am defending KW...just Koch....Kw and the advanced scouting is to lay this on

The trade was made for this yr... and on those terms kenny lost this trade. Long term...That f***ing geek foulke is leaving the A's after this year, and William Koch is here for two more years with a chance to regain his 2002 form. In addition to that we could have just added a front of the rotation starter who is a lefty. Unless Joe Valentine pans out to be pretty good... I think Kenny still come out the victor of the koch deal. Thats it Murcie...long-term we are better off...cause Foulke is walking, hopefully someone can straighten out Koch, and Cotts has a potential future.

bring back the guy that yelled in the front row....Get-Up guy...its his fault too