Capn12

NO CHANCE, I repeat NO CHANCE that either a) JR offers ANY pitcher that money, especially a closer..or b)Foulke would have come back to play for this Mickey Mouse organization.

I'm still happy, cause I know that Foulke walks away after this season, going somewhere that isnt 35th st, no matter who he is with this year

I COMPLETELY agree....Graffy should play 3B while he is hot, and leave Alomar at 2B...hes been catching on here lately.

It is safe to say.......PK is back!!! And I am very happy to say so.

Who was it, Hoffman or Wagner, that used to be a flamethrower, but had to totally rediscover the art of closing using offspeed pitching?

The guy looks like a real MLB hitter right now, and is working the lines well. Triple and a double so far today....good for Tony.

He didn't pitch bad, he K'd 3, and was throwing good off speed stuff. Until his arm is capable of hitting 96+mph, then he has to do what he can to get outs...the guys arm is probably worn out, plain and simple, from the past years.

I didn't see the BBTN broadcast, but Brantley never has impressed me in the past shows. Koch has never been effective this year that I can remember can anyone else? I don't think he has ever shown the 100 MPH fastball he is so famous for. Plain and simple the trade for Foulke was bad. The trade was for economics, plain and simple....if KW doesn't make that trade, Foulke is here for 2003...then he walks...doesnt matter how much money you show him(which with JR, wouldn't have happened anyway). So then we have no closer, and nothing to show for Foulkes time here. So we trade him, get what looks on paper like a workhorse closer with serious heat, AND a pretty good lefty pitcher too. We sign Koch now, avoid the arbitration that would have come wth Foulke (and he wouldnt have accepted), and all looks well. Now, the problem is, obviously Koch has been severly overworked my Oakland and Toronto in his past. This I DO blame KW for. Closers don't pitch the amount that Koch has in his MLB career so far. Everyone forgets that there is NO WAY IN HELL that Foulke was gonna stay here any longer than he had to. Remember, Foulke too, had thrown a ton of innings over the past few years. I think he was amongst the top few in the majors. But also remember, Jason, that Foulkes 85 mph heater and 79 mph change can IN NO WAY do the same arm damage as trying to reach back and throw the ball 99+ mph every time....that takes its toll on ANY arm..ask Trevor Hoffman, Matt Anderson, etc...

What about Hummel? The guy isn't doing too bad in AAA...I'm sure the org. hasn't forgotten about him..

I didn't see the BBTN broadcast, but Brantley never has impressed me in the past shows. Koch has never been effective this year that I can remember can anyone else? I don't think he has ever shown the 100 MPH fastball he is so famous for. Plain and simple the trade for Foulke was bad. The trade was for economics, plain and simple....if KW doesn't make that trade, Foulke is here for 2003...then he walks...doesnt matter how much money you show him(which with JR, wouldn't have happened anyway). So then we have no closer, and nothing to show for Foulkes time here. So we trade him, get what looks on paper like a workhorse closer with serious heat, AND a pretty good lefty pitcher too. We sign Koch now, avoid the arbitration that would have come wth Foulke (and he wouldnt have accepted), and all looks well. Now, the problem is, obviously Koch has been severly overworked my Oakland and Toronto in his past. This I DO blame KW for. Closers don't pitch the amount that Koch has in his MLB career so far. Everyone forgets that there is NO WAY IN HELL that Foulke was gonna stay here any longer than he had to.

Go say hi to Wayne while youre at the Stardust, too....

His pitching was SO terrible that he gave up a bloop single, a broken-bat double, and struck out 3 in 2 innings. If thats bad, then we have some real s***ty pitchers..hell, Buehrle gave up 10 hits in 6+ innings...he must be considered a complete f***nut by those standards.

You, there...everyone....lets all blame the 2003 White Sox' problems on Billy Koch!!! Now that our other scapegoat, Jimenez is gone, we MUST lay the blame somewhere!!! Koch is having some troubles, yes, but I'll be damned if I think its right to say s*** like, "Thursdays loss was Koch's fault." Bulls***. Check Fatass #40, and the rookie named David Sanders...check those 9 runs, and tell me that its Koch's fault.

WTF?? WE are STILL blaming that loss on a guy that gave up 1 run in 2 IP, not the Fatass that can't overpower anyone all of a sudden? Sounds like scapegoat written all over it. Must be the in-thing to blame Koch for everything right now

As long as he is not here in 2004, I'm happy...with Buehrle, Loaiza, Garland...thats a start...then we HAVE to find 2 more starters, preferably one a lefty(maybe Josh Stewart). But with that being the case, we may have to trade Colon this year to get anything of value before he walks away.

No, no, no....not Southern Cal....South Carolina....f*** the WEst coast USC too

sd have a great ss that is project to make it in the bigs next yr, that player is kallid greene(sp) the sd is going for marquee names in the of and 3b to help them Ya, talk as of late is that San Diego is going to find a second baseman and keep Khalil at short, but they do have the option of moving him to 2nd and signing a damn good shortstop. Khalil was one of the best college players ever at Clemson (I think it was Clemson). f*** Khalil Greene...Clemson Asswipe...USCs Drew Meyer is s***loads better...and kicked his ass in back to back games in 2002 CWS...sorry Jason, but ya hit a little close to home there

JR isnt gonna gamble on an overseas player, i dont see it happening...we need a MLB shortstop who also can hit...and Frank stays

I just hope we don't offer him after 2003....I have no problems watching him walk away

Refresh my memory....I keep thinking of the LFer Matsui...is there another wanting to make the move to the US? Not like JR is gonna do any signing of overseas players. I'd like to see Tejada, but it wont happen...although, the way he is hitting this year (.247), who knows. But Frank stays

I'm not so sure about your last addition there. Rickey Henderson can flat out play the game of baseball. And at the age of 44, he's in better shape than alot of MLB players out there. I don't like the guy at all, but he can still get the job done.

When Colon, Everett, Sandy, and Robbie walk after this year (or get traded), what kind of money does that free up. Obviously none from Robbie and Everett, but Colon and Sandy, and isnt Jose a FA too? What kind of $$$ are we talking here

Cali, check out Closure...not sure what you are into, but its pretty solid rock. It doesnt hurt that my friend is the lead guitarist They are starting to get a good bit of airplay.

If not our loyalty, we have Carlton Fisk situation Part II. JR lets Frank walk, or trades him after what he has done for the franchise, and there are LOTS og angry fans, and JR doesnt have that many fans to be pissing off. I don't see him doing that again, he and Frank are pretty close I thought.

I think he's pitching like a 300 lb fatass finess wannabe pitcher. I can't figure it out....throw the damn ball, Colon..most guys in the league can't catch up with your high heat, f***ing use it!!