Dick Allen

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 11, 2007 -> 07:26 PM) He came out and said "blame me. I put this team together." Sounds like the opposite of what you are asying The sooner he recognizes this team simply isn't good enough, the better for the future of this franchise. If he thinks this team is good enough to go on a 30-5 run or something like that, the Sox may suck for a while.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 11, 2007 -> 07:15 PM) Been meaning to ask you DA....what's your thoughts on if it's better for this team to lose right now over the next few weeks in order to convince KW and Ozzie that this team sucks? They aren't going to catch Cleveland and they have a few teams to jump over for the wildcard. I don't think they can win unless a miracle happens and the bullpen can get someone out. I have a feeling KW is not going to want to admit failure however. Buerhle should bring a nice package. Dye could bring something back as well and save money. They actually would have more money to throw at Buerhle this offseason the sooner they deal him. If he's serious about being here that is. I wonder how its going to go over on this board when he signs with the Cardinals and at his introductory press conference says St. Louis is the place he always wanted to be.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jun 11, 2007 -> 07:08 PM) looking Forward to Javy giving up 2-3 runs tonight and getting blamed for the loss Or his typical 6 inning 4 or 5 runs with 7 k's and people talking about how great he pitched. Sutcliffe believes he tips his pitches. He was calling location by his wind up.

If firing Walker will fix the offense, shouldn't the Sox fire Cooper to fix the bullpen, and fire KW to fix how the roster is put together, and fire Ozzie to fix how games are managed and players are used? I'm all for making changes as much as anyone, but I still don't think how making Walker the scapegoat is going to get this team going. I don't see how its going to make the offense any better. I've seen some of Walker's biggest critics rave about the Rangers hitting coach. The Sox got on base more times last season , hit more homers and struck out less than the Rangers with their mighty hitting coach.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 11, 2007 -> 01:10 PM) In 06, yes, by quite a bit too. 1.007 OPS last year for JD, .934 for Vlad. Too bad they will base his performance on this year and not last. His knee problem isn't going to help much either.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 10, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) The GO to the shortstop isn't any better and can actually be worse than a K with a guy on 2B. I'd rather have him put the ball in play. The SS might bobble it, or throw it away.

QUOTE(rafacosta @ Jun 10, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) He K'd...is this not worse than GO? He K'd agst a LH pitcher in a 90 mph...where is the bat speed? Nice work terrero... His swing has a tendancy to get real long. He'll K a lot when he's not going well.

I used to get excited when the Sox got the lead, but unless Buerhle can go 9, they are going to need several more runs.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 10, 2007 -> 01:28 PM) Paulie comes through with a double! the first Sox player to crack double figures in doubles. Maggs has 30. (I am not crying for a Maggs return, but if Bobby Abreu is worth $16 million with his Darrin Erstad-like numbers, Maggs is a bargain) Fields trying to put a 2 spot on the board.

KW's phone should be on fire right now, and he should be the one making the calls. His team is in freefall. I'm sure they will blame injuries when this dissappointing season comes to an end. Shocking how Erstad, Pods, Thome and Crede wound up on the DL. I would never of guessed it considering they have physical issues every season. Toby Hall goes down, and I know he's a huge part of the team. He's been back for a couple of weeks now and what does he have 2 starts? Ozuna gets hurt. I just hope when KW does the injury whine someone calls him out on it, and calls him out on his and his staff's player evaluation skills.

He's getting calls to see if he wants to take a bad contract or give the guys away. They aren't making much money baseball-wise. If his players are so coveted, why does he not make a deal? It isn't because he thinks his guys are so great they are going to go on a roll. Its because what he would get back is even bigger crap than what he'd be giving away.

QUOTE(GreenSox @ Jun 9, 2007 -> 09:10 AM) I really don't think he thought Atkins was a stud. I think he didn't know what he was doing and for some reason was hell-bent on dumping Durham (although as you said, not for salary dumping purposes). He also seemed to have convinced himself that Durham had little market value - Remember him saying to the media all that stuff about how there is no market for dumping players (something about the rules on compensation changing). He trusted Beane during that period, which is never a good idea, so he got snookered, plain and simple. Even look at last winter- did he get maximum return in young talent for Freddie Garcia? He thought and maybe still thinks Floyd is one of the top prospects in the game. Trading Durham and picking up the remainder of his contract except for the pro-rated minimum should get you a better prospect than Adkins. If not, you might as well pay the extra minimum salary and keep the draft picks. I'm sure the White Sox wound up paying Adkins more than they saved on the Durham trade for some crappy performances.

QUOTE(rudylaw @ Jun 9, 2007 -> 08:50 AM) Today is Saturday June 9th and we only have 3 more wins that the Royals. If you listen to Hawk he'll tell you,"the've got a good ballclub", so its really nothing to be embarrassed about.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Jun 9, 2007 -> 08:18 AM) wrong Barry/Berry Onan Masaoka Jon Adkins Frank Francisco (but we let him get away in Everett II) a Korean pitcher whose name escapes me, Byeong Ak- or something like that Felix Diaz Baldwin was done by then, Durham was a salary dump, Howry's arm wasn't back to 100% yet, Lofton was old We should get a good deal for Buehrle if we choose to go that route, or have no other choice If Durham was a salary dump, why did KW pick up the biggest portion of his remaining contract that the rules allow? He thought Adkins was a stud.

QUOTE(29thandPoplar @ Jun 9, 2007 -> 08:11 AM) Garcia is now fessing up that his shoulder has been bothering him since spring training. Fastball peaking in the mid 80's. He has been trying to gut it out in Philly but it's not happening. This is why he was traded. Sox felt he had lots of wear and tear and his best days were behind him. Its obvious something was wrong with him, but the Sox traded him because his contract was expiring and they wanted to make room in the rotation for McCarthy, now Danks, or even Floyd. If you recall, they claimed Freddy's velocity loss was due to the playoffs and WBC and that he'd be back at 94 mph in 2007. I can't believe they believed that and that a lot of people believed that. Anyway, Freddy was pretty bad last year until he started throwing gems in September, but you knew that was a mirage. As to the trade itself, I liked it at the time, although if the comments from Philadelphia are accurate, its obvious if KW wanted more from them he could have gotten it. I mean if you got nothing back for a guy who is making $10,000,000 in the final year of his contract, who is 1-5 with a 5.90 ERA and has a sore arm, its a good trade. I think the problem a lot of people have with it is it could have been even better. I like Gio as much as anyone, but he is in AA. Floyd is bad, there really is no way else to describe him. Its possible the Sox get no major league help from the deal.

Anyone know who Jerry Krause is working for now? I just took the elevator down with him. Man does he breathe heavy.

Can't do the time, don't do the crime. Wasn't this a probation violation? Maybe if anyone ever enforced rules with her, she wouldn't think they don't apply to her. Make her stay the entire time. It actually may make her a better person.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Jun 8, 2007 -> 01:35 PM) any word on how mac or sisco is doing down in AAA Who cares. If they can't throw a strike at USCF, I couldn't care less if the strike everyone out in AAA.

KW put together a solid bullpen. I'm sure many of them will be headed to the All Star Game in San Francisco this year to throw at the home run derby.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 10:33 PM) Jon Garland said back in April this team had the most talent and could win the World Series He must have been stoned.

QUOTE(kwolf68 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 10:32 PM) We need to just quit using the pen. Guys back in the '40s threw 150-160 pitches a game. Time for these boys to earn their money. Contreras remembers those days I'm sure.

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 10:30 PM) Now Hawk is talking about magic. Maybe he's on the magic mushrooms that I saw being available all over Amsterdam.

I think Josh Fields might swing and miss at 25 in a row against Rivera.

QUOTE(Sonik22 @ Jun 7, 2007 -> 10:28 PM) I agree, keep Prinz but keep all former Royals at Charlotte! f*** AAA lets go to AA! Prinz sucks. Its a shame the Sox have him on the roster. Its outrageous if KW and Ozzie still think this is a championship calibur team. Its loaded with minor leaguers, even with mediocre major leaguers on the DL.

If KW and Ozzie and JR and Reifert and all the rest of them aren't totally embarrassed right now, shame on them. They had such an opportunity to take over this city, and pissed it away.