Dick Allen

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Apr 8, 2006 -> 01:21 PM) That was one of the ugliest AB's I have ever seen. AJ looks like he was under the impression today's game was supposed to be a night game.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 10:00 PM) No one cares if you're scared, not scared, whatever. Just because you disagree with me and I''ve challenged you on this thread, you start getting personal. It's none of your business. If you've got something to say to me say it via PM. You have mine. Since you say you have such a stellar reputation, why don't you share with the audience the PM you sent me. I just commented on your very rude post, way out of line.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:57 PM) Stay out of it, it's none of your business. If you've got something to say to me, show some class and say it via PM. Got it? I'm not scared, you're really out of line, I don't have to hide anything.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:56 PM) Shut up Hawk, Ozuna just flat out sucked tonight. Don't forget, Hawk was the guy who tried to stick Fisk in LF.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:50 PM) I'll make sure to monitor how it goes with the whole lefty-righty matchup stuff. Let's see if you stay consistent. If you'd have stuck with McCarthy, good for you, you're just about the only one on SoxTalk. Or in baseball for that matter. You can monitor my posts all you want. I'm consistent with my beliefs.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:46 PM) My reputation on this board speaks for itself. If you have something to say to me you ignorant tool, say it via PM. You're right about the "know it all 30-something", but you forgot to add "smarmy prick" to the equation. Just to be clear about what I said, you don't know f*** all about baseball. And to clarify once more, shove your eye roll up your ass. OK? This is really uncalled for Really, this post should lead to a suspension. Please show some class, apologize and delete it.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:43 PM) What the f*** is up with these s***ty players hitting us? I think Grudz was 0 for his first 10 with 8 K's Nice grab by Mack! Grudz killed the Sox when he was with the Cubs.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:39 PM) Inning over. Wowwowowowowowowwowowow that inning sure turned fast. I'm gonna go barf or hit something or cry or sleep. I dunno which. Thanks Sox. Hopefully you get your s*** together tomorrow The good news is Vazquez has a 1.20 career ERA against KC.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:32 PM) Ozzie will never learn. Sweeney will kill us everytime. At least Garland kept him in the park tonight.He has 5 homers against him in his career.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:29 PM) not gonna accuse anyone of anything, but i read in a chat on espn...someone asked gary gillette why there were so many high scoring games, and he said its possible that the banning of "greenies" could have something to do with it. he said alot of guys would take them before their outings to get amped up. Earlier in the game, Hawk said he was very interested in how the pitchers on the Sox would perform, then mentioned he was interested in all pitching performances, and kind of left the reason up in the air. This could be what he was talking about.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:19 PM) Maybe once everyone is a bit more healthy Ozzie can give the Sunday lineups a rest for a bit so we can actually start to win some games. One of the reasons we saw the "Sunday" line-up so often last season was it was the Sox goal to win series, not necessarily 10 games in a row. They won the first 2 games of a series quite often. Although the bench is stronger this year, and I don't think you will see them all in the line-up at the same time as much this season.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:19 PM) It seems like a pretty easy choice when you just look at the lineups individually, however we did score more runs then them last year and obviously our offense is improved from last year. Switch home parks and the story may be different.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:13 PM) The Tigers will be better as their hitters get used to hitting with their new "physiques". Magglio and Rodriquez both got a little bigger after last year's slim down.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) Everyone laughed at me yesterday when I was impressed with Detroit hammering these guys. Everyone said 'relax...it's the Royals'. If Detroit gets pitching, they will be tough.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:11 PM) Everyone laughed at me yesterday when I was impressed with Detroit hammering these guys. Everyone said 'relax...it's the Royals'. 7 runs should be enough to beat the Royals.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:05 PM) This is f***ing ridiculous. There is no excuse for this even being a game. What a god damn joke. Blowing a 6 run lead to these sad sacks should be embarrassing.

Hawk is saying Garland has pitched well, I don't agree. Granted the play in LF has been brutal, but he didn't pitch over it, and gave up some rockets.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 05:23 PM) Now, tell me what you would've said here had McCarthy served up a long ball to Hafner. Do tell. I bet it would've been something along the lines of "why not Cotts, heck, why not Logan even?". As for Jenks, no one said he has little confidence in Jenks. Ozzie said he'd be giving Cotts some save opportunities is the timing and match ups were right. No I wouldn't. I don't lie. I can admit when I wrong. I thought they should have left McCarthy in. If not him, its the 8th inning, I'm going to Cotts if he's able to go, which obviously he was, if he wasn't able it would have been Thornton for me, but I could understand if it were Logan for others. If Ozzie was totally confident with Jenks, he wouldn't have to save Cotts, especially with Hafner, Martinez and Broussard coming up in the 8th inning.

QUOTE(fathom @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 05:28 PM) It amazes me how much stock people seem to put in the first couple of games of the season. The season isn't won or loss due to one poorly executed game on the first Wednesday of the season. The season isn't won or lost, but what I was getting at was the players goal is to win series. Cleveland winning the series was a huge boost to their mental being. The Sox had a ton of distractions, so really its no skin off their back. I was saying if Cleveland lost it may become a situation like the Sox and Minnesota a couple of years ago when the Sox just couldn't beat them. What was the Cleveland vs. White Sox head to head last year?

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) I don't think Cleveland is the type of team that'd get demoralized with the season just three games in. Thank you.

QUOTE(GasHeGone @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 05:17 PM) We need a win tonight in a big way. If we recall last year, the Sox were amazing at avoiding three game losing streaks. I wanna say they never lost three straight until they lost 7 (or was it 8?) straight last August. It may only be April 7, but let's not set a precedent here by losing three straight. Garland's going 7+ tonight. I hope you're right. The game I saw Garland pitch in Tucson, he got pummelled. Then he got pummelled by minor leaguers his next outing. Hopefully it was the thin Arizona air and/or a dead arm period. If his sinker is working, he should be fine.

QUOTE(robinventura23 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 05:12 PM) Today is Sunday? Well, we are playing the Royals. Day game tomorrow, so I see why Widger's playing. Dye is hurt. So the only question mark is Pods - He hasn't really looked 100% anyway. Pods is 0-13 and a lefty is on the mound. Ozuna is probably the better bet. Its really too bad the Sox couldn't win Wednesday. It would have been demoralizing to Cleveland had the Sox leadoff man and clean-up hitter go a combined 1-26 and the Sox still took 2 out of 3.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 04:51 PM) Keith, He wanted to save Cotts in case he needed him in the 9th or a tie game. Logan is the lefty specialist, that's why he used him against Hafner in the 8th. You are correct that both pitched two innings. Guillen used Logan in the role they have him in, he made a bad pitch. As for Thornton, I'm sure he'll get some innings this weekend. If he has so little confidence in Jenks in the ninth, that he can't use his primary left handed set-up man in the 8th, there is a huge problem. And if he wanted to save someone for extra innings, he might as well have left McCarthy in. I was at the game, and can tell you my entire section was questioning this move when it occurred. That's not second guessing, and its not micro-managing. Micro-managing would be what Ozzie did. Make sure Hafner saw a lefty, no matter what.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 09:58 AM) Riiiiiiiiiiiight. No one would have gotten on here and mentioned that Neal pitched two innings the prior day and that Logan got Hafner to GIDP on opening day and ripped Ozzie for using Cotts despite those facts. That is laughable. Actually, both Logan and Cotts pitched 2 innings on Tuesday. Logan did get Hafner to roll into a DP on Tuesday, but it also gave him a good look at him. What happened to Matt Thornton? I haven't heard 1 person mention the 2 innings Logan pitched Tuesday. Obviously, Cotts was available, everyone in the bullpen was available. Ozzie chose to use the last guy on his staff. It backfired. We will never know how the others would have fared, it may have been worse, but if it was, I would have been able to go home sooner, it was freezing.

QUOTE(JimH @ Apr 7, 2006 -> 11:00 AM) If he's afraid to put him in to face Hafner then Logan shouldn't be on the team. It was a bad pitch, that's not the managers fault. That's not the point. Was he afraid to have BMac face him, is that why he was yanked? Of course not. It was the 8th inning, to me that's Cotts' job if they aren't going to let BMac, a guy who was pitching pretty well, continue. Maybe it was a test to see if Logan can do the job in those situations. I would prefer, and others on this board agree, Ozzie doesn't do his testing in a 1 run game in the 8th inning against the team that most likely poses the biggest threat to the White Sox division title defense. Losing that game was a 2 game swing with Cleveland, and last year we found out how important winning series against division opponents is, and how important winning games in April is. Now, Cotts wasn't exactly stellar Wednesday either, and he may have coughed up the lead himself. I actually was stunned they didn't let McCarthy continue. I'd rather have a righty I know is throwing well face Hafner, than a lefty with 1 inning above A ball at that point, that might not have his good stuff that day. Worst case scenerio BMac gives up a homer, but then you have an extra guy in the bullpen if the game goes extra innings.