Dick Allen

Getting draft picks for players would require the White Sox offering arbitration, which i believe they would do for Colon and no one else. Hopefully, some of these guys will sign with another team before the arbitration deadline, so the Sox could offer it without risk of it being accepted, and get the picks.

I agree with all but point 3. IMO, Garland was not the option last night. Starting pitchers have a routine on their scheduled start. Telling Garland 1 to 2 hours prior to the game and then sending him out to toe the rubber could have been devastating. Maybe I'm wrong, but knowing how quirky some starting pitcher are about their game day routines, Jon wouldn't have been in the right mindset. Just my opinion, of course. Jon's a professional. He should come to the ballpark everyday with the mindset that he is starting. That goes for EL, BC, MB, and whoever our number 5 is from week-to-week. Sorry, it doesn't work that way, not with starting pitchers. Everyday players, yes. Starting pitchers, no. I'm not a starting pitcher but I have a routine I go through before work everyday. I'm sure starting pitchers do too..... whether they are starting or not. Otherwise, what's the sense of having them in uniform, in the dugout, every game? They're not in the dugout every game. Many times they'll send them to the next city the day before the team, for the sole purpose of getting ready. Sounds like it's a process that's not easily altered. They send a pitcher ahead when they play a night game and won't be getting into the next city until real late, so the pitcher gets a full nights sleep, and gets to bed at or near his usual time. I'm sure no pitcher was sent ahead from Boston, in fact I could tell you they were not because I saw both EL and JG checking out of the hotel. Garland could have pitched, it wouldn't have screwed him up. They probably still would have lost. Garland could have gone last night, yes, but no one knows how effective he would have been. All I'm saying is that these guys have game day routines that they go through. Maybe Jon eats chicken for lunch on the day he pitches. Maybe he didn't eat chicken yesterday and is told he is starting an hour before the game. It's a mental issue. Of course he 'could' have started. Any one of our starters 'could' have started. I've known guys who couldn't tie their shoes the right way if they didn't have all their ducks in a row on game day. Maybe he would have done better without this "routine" he alledgedly goes through. Like I said before, the offense scored only 2 runs, so to win anyone would have only been able to allow 1, so in terms of winning or losing, last night's decision by JM really didn't matter, its just that it could someday.

I wasn't calling you out, by all means, defend yourself. Obviously EL thought he could still go, and it was obvious very quickly he couldn't. JM has to recognize that. His performance in the 1st inning reminded me of Neal Cotts. 3 or 4 walks. At that point he had thrown 35 or so pitches, JM needed to get him out of there, especially knowing beforehand he was under the weather.

I agree with all but point 3. IMO, Garland was not the option last night. Starting pitchers have a routine on their scheduled start. Telling Garland 1 to 2 hours prior to the game and then sending him out to toe the rubber could have been devastating. Maybe I'm wrong, but knowing how quirky some starting pitcher are about their game day routines, Jon wouldn't have been in the right mindset. Just my opinion, of course. Jon's a professional. He should come to the ballpark everyday with the mindset that he is starting. That goes for EL, BC, MB, and whoever our number 5 is from week-to-week. Sorry, it doesn't work that way, not with starting pitchers. Everyday players, yes. Starting pitchers, no. I'm not a starting pitcher but I have a routine I go through before work everyday. I'm sure starting pitchers do too..... whether they are starting or not. Otherwise, what's the sense of having them in uniform, in the dugout, every game? They're not in the dugout every game. Many times they'll send them to the next city the day before the team, for the sole purpose of getting ready. Sounds like it's a process that's not easily altered. They send a pitcher ahead when they play a night game and won't be getting into the next city until real late, so the pitcher gets a full nights sleep, and gets to bed at or near his usual time. I'm sure no pitcher was sent ahead from Boston, in fact I could tell you they were not because I saw both EL and JG checking out of the hotel Sunday. Garland could have pitched, it wouldn't have screwed him up. They probably still would have lost.

Whether he puked or not is irrelevant. He was sick. I was watching on TV and told my wife he seemed out of breath and was sweating up a storm in the first inning. I had no idea he was sick until DJ said so after he was pulled. JM should have had the trainer out looking at him.

Garland was told Sunday that he was being pushed back. His routine would not have been altered. He easily could have pitched last night. Of course he would only have been allowed to give up 1 run, because the Sox only scored 2. The White Sox were pretty much destined to lose last night, its just that our manager makes so many assinine decisions, its driving me crazy.

The bottom line is when it comes to managing a baseball team, Jerry Manuel is a doofus.

Why does he have to tell him? Can't JM see for himself? Isn't that JM's job? 99% of players don't beg out of games, let alone one of this magnitude. JM apparently has no clue about his personnel.

Garciaparra showed up to Fenway Sunday sick. He wanted to play. Grady Little sent him home.

After he labored through the first inning, luckily getting by with giving up 1 run it was obvious something was wrong. We have seen great performances by players who have been sick, but that is the exception not the rule. It was obvious he wasn't himself, he should have been pulled.

JM knew he was sick. Loaisa even told Farmio he'd probably puke on the mound, so you know he told Cooper or JM something similar.Maybe EL told them he would be ok. But its JM's job to determine that he won't be ok, like after the first inning, or even after the second inning. This is no time to screw around. It was obvious that there was something wrong, looking at him, he appeared to be hyperventilating and sweating profusely. The fact that JM takes 2 extra innings to conclude their was something very wrong is inexcusable. The point is probably moot because the Sox could only muster 2 runs, and it would not be realistic to believe the bullpen could shut them out for 8 innings, but JM needs to wake up. He's a very nice and classy man, but he should not be managing the White Sox.

KW has stated many times that this team was built for the long haul, not just 2003. If that means that ownership is going to have to step up financially or there are other tricks up their sleeve is anyone's guess. With the division as weak as it is, to totally tank and rebuild ala Cleveland would be deplorable. You don't have to be that great to make the playoffs. Minnesota is going to lose some players this off season, KC can't realistically be expected to do much, Cleveland probably needs a couple more years, and Detroit is hopeless. Let Rowand play CF, get a cheaper better SS (Eckstein perhaps), hope Koch can be at least average, sign some cheap relievers, maybe trade for a rent an ace again, and most importantly get the right man in the dugout. 2004 can be a lot of fun, they need to build on the momentum created this season, and who knows, they still have a chance this year.

One constant for this team this year has been whenever you are ready to give up on them, they bring you back in. Of course the other constant is when they look like they are going to win it all, they break your heart. I'm sure Twins fans felt like most of us after the first 2 games of last week's series. We definitely have a disadvantage with JM calling the shots, but there is still hope.

He's very good off the bench. When he plays regularly, he gets exposed and isn't as valuable. I like Tony G as a reserve. As a regular, the results would be very dissapointing.

keep it away from Koskie, he's a vaccuum cleaner.

Paulie's going to have to bow his neck

At least he didn't hit into the all too frequent GIDP

Gene LaMont was fired because the players weren't ready to play. And that was after winning the division twice, and Schueler getting off the golf course long enough to sign Sabo and Kruk.Why such a long leash with this bozo?

How about making Radke throw more than 6 pitches this inning? How about some small ball? I'd love to see what this team could do if they just tried to get on base.

If this was known yesterday then JM is a f***ing moron. A complete moron. JG has been pitching his ass of all year and would of been just fine. If this is something that came up today and for whatever reason they couldn't go to JG then and only then is that an excuse. Still, I'm really questioning. For cripes sake he was gonna PUKE??? well jason its about damn time you see this for what it really is...... a cluster f***.......jm is a f***in moron........tinker tinker tinker........we cant seem to get enough..... :fyou the management of this team and its owner.......someone should have had balls enough to tell or say to jm hey the guys sick dont start him .........geez us I've wanted Manuel out since the end of last season. I gave him last year as the year to show that the injuries were the excuse for the demise in 2001. It wasn't the case and I was ready for him to be gone. Backman has been my guy for a while and I know you've been backing him too WALLY !!!!!! WALLY!!!!!! WALLY!!!!!!!!!! yep i have been calling his name for quite some time now........too bad no one but you heard me though....... I think if Wally isn't in Chicago next season, he's going to be in a different organization. and could you blame him.... geez us.... its been a long time coming... wtf is jr waiting on.......we really need a guy like him to come in and kick some asses around .........or at least make a few GOOD decisions once in a while...... I agree. Unless you bring in Piniella or Leyland, I think you have to give the job to Backman. Another year of JM should not be an option.

If this was known yesterday then JM is a f***ing moron. A complete moron. JG has been pitching his ass of all year and would of been just fine. If this is something that came up today and for whatever reason they couldn't go to JG then and only then is that an excuse. Still, I'm really questioning. For cripes sake he was gonna PUKE??? well jason its about damn time you see this for what it really is...... a cluster f***.......jm is a f***in moron........tinker tinker tinker........we cant seem to get enough..... :fyou the management of this team and its owner.......someone should have had balls enough to tell or say to jm hey the guys sick dont start him .........geez us I've wanted Manuel out since the end of last season. I gave him last year as the year to show that the injuries were the excuse for the demise in 2001. It wasn't the case and I was ready for him to be gone. Backman has been my guy for a while and I know you've been backing him too WALLY !!!!!! WALLY!!!!!! WALLY!!!!!!!!!! yep i have been calling his name for quite some time now........too bad no one but you heard me though....... I think if Wally isn't in Chicago next season, he's going to be in a different organization.

If they aren't going to score any runs, its better off Loaisa didn't have it tonight. It would be a shame if he lost another 1-0 or 2-0 game.

Lets watch Jose pull his head with 2 strikes and K.

JM would love to be fired IMO. Then he would get paid to sleep in Sacramento instead of the White Sox dugout. If he resigned, he would not get paid.

Evidently, Esteban doesn't like to vary from his usual rest. With an off day yesterday he was in line to pitch today. The same strategy was not used, as you probably recall, when JM went to Cotts in NY. JM did say this was not a do or die series. Whatever he's on, I want some.