Harry Chappas

Young led the legue in GIDP and struck out 127 times with a K/BB of 5/1. He is young but his OPS was not that staggering either.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 01:08 PM) The Twins are doing the right thing. They see the fact that they can't compete in this division in the next couple years. They will be an absolute force in a few years when they get their new stadium, the payroll increases, and their new young talent is established. It's about at that time when the Sox, coming off back-to-back-to-back 3rd place finishes, will be trying to rebuild or another half ass "go-for-it" effort. This Twins rebuild is anything but good for the Sox' future. Just like the new parks added to the revenue of the Reds, Pirates and to a degree the Cardinals. The Twins organization has always had money they just do not like spending it.

Sharp and Williams make this team a potentially really good team as Sharp adds a toughness out there with Kane and Toews amd he seems to be finishing really well. Havalt needs to be healthy though as well.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 10:35 AM) It's an impossible balance. We tell people to never forget where they came from. Stay grounded. We also tell them to ditch their hometown and childhood friends. Who are you going to trust, your new "friends" who are hangin with you because of your new celebrity and cash, or the guys who hung out with you when you were a nobody? Jeez that is tough. And what prepares these kids for becoming instant millionaires? The league has a program put together by old white guys, I'm certain that's relevant. Clearly they need to be held responsible a lot earlier in their lives, but that is not the whole answer. Here is why I think you are wrong. From the NFL Rookie Symposium not much old white guys but they are probably ttere to help with the finance side "Off-field conduct is always discussed at length during the symposium. But it will certainly be stressed even more this year, with new Commissioner Roger Goodell's crackdown on such issues. League spokesman Dan Masonson said Goodell will speak to the rookies and likely take some questions Monday morning. Goodell, Reggie Bush and Will Smith are three of several players, coaches and executives who will speak at this year's symposium, which begins today in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla. Professionals in specialized fields outside of football also speak at the symposium. Among other scheduled speakers are Romeo Crennel, Ozzie Newsome, Troy Vincent, Vince Young, D'Brickashaw Ferguson, DeAngelo Hall, Chris Draft, Eddie Kennison, Jerod Cherry, Jeff Saturday and Dhani Jones." You remember your roots to keep you grounded, use the lessons learned to not make the same mistakes twice and don't forget where you came from as that is what helps get you and make you what you are. Sean Taylor could have done some good by coming cleaning and giving back in a different community. He did not have to stay in South Florida. I know this is easier said then done but it is a real option.

A part of me thinks that they really wanted Hunter at their price and knew it would not happen at the end of the day. I believe without a doubt that it is Crawford and the Linebrink and Cabrerea moves are part of it.

Maybe the rose colored glasses are a little thick this morning but I think Danks OR Gio, Uribe and McDougal get it done for Crawford.

The fourth year could be a team option.

QUOTE(Brian @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 05:49 PM) Not sure what this is about, but Dave Kaplan comes off as arrogant with little big man syndrome. I have no idea what this post is about but Kaplan is a pompous ass.

QUOTE(DonnyDevito @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 07:28 PM) And you think Ozzie does?! As I pointed out on page 9 of this thread, if the pitchers are doing their job, Copper and and Guillen handle the bullpen very well. What is so bad about this deal he didn't cost as much and should be at least a decent guy with Thorton and McDougal.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 22, 2007 -> 09:19 AM) Do you expect Ozzie will? I actually think he does do this very well if guys are doing their job. I echo the sentiment of the poster that said that this board b****es either. They may have a trade for a McDougal or Aardesma. Teams will take chances on these type of guys. Package one of them with Uribe and you may get something, not much, but something. Bullpens are a complete crapshot for just about every team. Throw 15 guys out there and try and get 7 to be decent. This is a nice move, nothing great but nice. Not sure why they didn't wait and see if the Brewers were even going to offer arbitration.

I think for the same price Jones is a better player then Hunter on the field but Hunter brings that grinder mentality, sorry for using that term but I think it is what seperates the two. Teh two year age difference is huge because Jones for 6 years is stomacable while Hunter I beleive is not. I think Hunter plays the game harder and it will take a greater toll on his body. I think Jones cost more money per year and for longer years and his agent will keep him on the market until February. The Sox should really be going aftter Fukodome and Rowand.

Does Cleveland still have the Korean gay porn star? They could take hot dog eating to the next level.

QUOTE(bmags @ Nov 20, 2007 -> 03:51 PM) this is 2007 nobody looks at baseball cards I was using the Greg Walker quote to make a point.

OC will help Fields like Guillen helped Ventura. The OC thing looks better when you look beyond the back of the baseball card and into the clubhouse.

Aren't Masset and Floyd out of options? If so they would justabout guaranteed spots on the roster.

Rocky Wirtz is becoming the George Steinbrenner of hockey, which could be good.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 19, 2007 -> 04:29 PM) Not that it matters, but Levine said he was positive Konerko was going to be dealt. Not to nit pick your quote but did Levine state that he WAS positive in that he thought the Angels were trying to get Konerko for Cabrera and was wrong?

Wow when did GG SS become pieces of garbage? The guy automatically upgrades our defense and saves money. I was the biggest Jon Garland fan on this board but this move makes the White Sox better. I beleive the White Sox feel they can sign him reasonably for a long term deal. He helped Boston win the WS and he can steal a base. I liked Garland but I think the White Sox got the better end of this deal. I believe Cabrera is better then Renteria and Furcal and this team is better because of it.

You know what.......if you care.....I think we made a good trade for both teams. We have a GG shortstop and we have legitimate depth on the infield. I still think Uribe would be a GG 3B and the Sox can move both Fields and Crede this offseason if need be.

Levine doesn't tell of prospects that may be involved. Garland -$12M cash If the Angels pick up half the contract this is Carlos Lee Part. Sox could have picked up $8M in cash for a FA???? They also could have a trade for Uribe set up?

QUOTE(Kid Gleason @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 03:43 PM) Nah, the "evil one" easn't loony. The pilot guy...was it Tilman? I can't believe I am forgetting his name. I always considered him "evil" or something due to the fact that he seemed to always be right. Nobody should ever be right that often. I loved him on the news. What the heck was his name??? Jim Tilman, NOBODY and I mean NOBODY took weather more seriously then Jim Tilman. He also was/is the Ch. 5 aviation expert as he was a commercial pilot. Anytime there was a plane issue (crashes mostly) he would get to sit at the desk and give the lowdow. This was when news was about passion and not the crap we get now. Tilman, John Drummond, Fahey Flynn, Johnny Morris, Bill Curtis. Chicago still turns out some good one's Lester Holt

I didn't see a-lot of last night's game but a couple of things. The Kane and Toews line keeps the defense on their heels and late in the game that meant something. My thoughts and I am a remedial fan is that in a prevent, a defensive grouping seems to allow better scoring chances. Khaby is the guy that is going to determine how far this team goes. I think the forwards on this team can be as good as anyone once Havlet comes back as Sharp is looking good, really good. They appear to have enough forwards to consistently score. The defense seems ok but will be the downfall if it is not improved. On CSN post game they interviewed Khabi, I did not think he spoke as good of English as he does. Oh and finally their were interviewing Bobby Knight during the OU Texas Tach game it was very good. Johnny "Red" Kerr is turning into Ron Santo.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 16, 2007 -> 04:06 PM) Wow! I don't think I could disagree more with this comment. Marmol has the potential to be an all-world closer for the next decade. He reminds me so much of K-Rod. If he can't get the slider over his fastball can be hit. As hitters become acclimated to the slider the more I think they will lay off of it and then I think he will get hit. He could be all-world he could also be average. Am I wrong about his fastball as I thought it topped out around 93?

QUOTE(beautox @ Nov 16, 2007 -> 05:17 AM) The Rays don't need anyone, they have the best farm system in all of baseball and a loaded ML club that just needs a bit more time together. Exactly why if they move Crawford it will be for pitching and only pitching and good young grade A pitching. I think Hill is really overrated especially seeing that he will be 28 years old at the start of next year and went 11-8 in the NL Central. Marmol was great last year but fizzled in the playoffs. He was really bad the year before as a starter. He is an unknown to me for next year. I would compare Hill/Marmol to Danks/Masset based mostly on the age of the players. Hell I'd say Gio/Masset is better than Hill/Marmol. Marmol is solely a relief pitcher while all three Sox pitchers have better upside I believe then the cub pitchers. I beleive Felix Pie is the equivalent of Brian Anderson with the only difference being the cubs did not trash their player.

QUOTE(103 mph screwball @ Nov 16, 2007 -> 09:57 AM) The Dodgers may value Crede's defense at 3rd and not like Cabrera's attitude and weight. The Dodgers could solidify 3rd with 1-2 good prospects instead of 3-4 very good ones. Crede would also be a cheaper salary. The Sox could add a young star who is friend's with Ozzie. The Sox may have a "gut feeling" that Cabrera would sign long term with the Sox from conversations that Ozzie may have had with him. The Sox may not be as worried about his weight due to the Ozzie connection as well. This potential trade seems a lot like the Freddie Garcia trade in 2004. I think this could actually happen and I'm sure KW is making an extraordinary effort to work something out. I'd give acquiring Cabrera a 46% chance of happening. Thank you for writing my thoughts. Crede is a much better long term 3rd base solution if healthy. That is an if that can easily be solved. He is also a lower risk money wise. If the Dodgers are willing to spend th cash this is better move as they can lock up Crede long term more easily than Cabrera.