StrangeSox

Wow, Glaus was pissed off at himself a bit there... Great job by Danks getting out of that jam.

He swung at that and didn't make any sort of effort to get out of the way. He moved his hands into the ball.

Wow. WTF?

See. Told you!

Joe Crede is a bad hitter.

Making him work here. Nice to see a Sox player do that.

There we go! Thome!

Fantastic. Should have been two.

Nice baserunning right there! This team is turning it around!

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 01:14 AM) An interesting Lost theory here: http://lost-theories.com/theories/2007/may...xperiment-tale/ It's a long read and revisits the idea of time-travel. It's very well thought out and makes a bunch of bloody sense. I especially like what he says about the smoke monster. Yeah, but there's a lot of stuff that doesn't fit with what we know now. Ben isn't with Dharma, they get back to LA post-2004 (not stuck 20 years in the past), etc. And he misuses Schrodinger's Cat. Part of the point of that was to show that quantum properties do not apply to the macroscopic world.

Man the Yankees are bad. I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox managed to win this series.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 11:12 AM) It's their bar, they could do whatever they want, as long as it is legal, of course. I think that's the argument -- whether or not discrimination based on sexuality should be legal.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 2, 2007 -> 04:44 PM) Greg Walker himself said in an an interview that he does not preach the lift and pull approach and he has no idea where this term is coming from and why it is being labled on him. You still haven't explained how or when the hitting coach is responsible. When the entire team sucks ass for months on end and all seem to have the same terrible approach, there's probably something in common. If he isn't responsible for a terrible offensive approach and production over the last 100 games or so, when is he responsible? How do we evaluate his job? How do we know when he is or isn't performing well?

Nice to see a Winner thread for a change. Only got to catch a few innings tonight, but looked good.

I think Lou Dobbs has officially gone insane.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 10:58 AM) From the end of August through the end of September in 06, nary a peep out of the "positivists," they simply disappeared and everyone tuned out the White Sox, except for Garcia's no-no flirtation in Anaheim. Now they're back in full force and trying to shout down anyone who sees the same pattern of play. Go figure.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ May 31, 2007 -> 07:14 PM) The Grudge and The Ring are only scary if you find the jerky movements of the killers scary. I didn't. Yeah, newer "horror" movies are about copious amounts of gore, quick cuts, and shaky camera work. Not scary, and not good cinema.

I love SoxTalk hyperbole. Don't think the team is very good? Then I'm a much better fan than you! This team will ROXORZ!!! Just wait until the weather heats up/ pitching comes around/ bullpen settles in/ offense starts clicking/ whole team gels/ cliched excuse. Think this team is playoff-bound? You've got your head up your butt! Don't you see how bad they are?! They're going to finish behind the Royals! I don't think this team will make the playoffs. That doesn't make me a bad fan. That doesn't mean I won't support the team and go to some games this summer. It just means that, looking at the current situation, I don't think this is a playoff-caliber team. I'll still watch a majority of the Sox games this year. If they win, great! If they lose, oh well. I won't be keeping my eyes on the standings. By the way, a more appropriate analogy would be down 12-2 in the 4th. Sure, its possible that you'll come back, but not very likely given the current level of play.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 10:34 AM) There is such a thing as the pythagorean index. Your winning percentage should be roughly RS^2 / (RS^2 + RA^2) Where RS is Runs Scored and RA is Runs Against. This method has been remarkably accurate. What it is saying is that the 2005 team won 8 more games than it should have, according to the Pythagorean Index. So Guillen gets the credit for those 8 games, and not a pitching staff that managed to hold razor-thin leads? My point is that there's a certain combination, and something like a manager's "impact factor" isn't really quantifiable. Edit: What sort of margin of error does this method produce? 5% would be 8 games over the course of a season. I don't buy this as a tool to evaluate managers at all. There are way, way too many factors.

QUOTE(Tannerfan @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 10:31 AM) Anyone who says the season is over has no understanding of the history of baseball. Is this team good enough to come back? I don't know. Is it possible based on being 1 game under on June 1st? Definitely. I am shocked at how negative this board has become over the past several months. It's been this way since the team completely collapsed during the Boston series near the All-Star break last year. The White Sox have been playing very bad baseball since then and don't show many signs of improvement.

We're beyond that thinking because its been eliminated from our society for decades now. Introduce it back in now, and see where we are again in 2050.

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 09:52 AM) Sometimes managers get more out of their teams than they should. Sometimes they get less. While this surely will surprise White Sox fans, Ozzie Guillen is a plus-3 this season, which means he has done a good job to hang around .500 with a team that has issues. The only other managers who have helped out their team as much, according to the Impact Factor, are Arizona's Bob Melvin and Tampa Bay's Joe Maddon. The managers having the worst years are the Yankees' Joe Torre and the Cubs' Lou Piniella, at minus-6 and minus-5, respectively. It's a surprise Torre's moves aren't working, as he—like the Braves' Cox—should be on his way to the Hall of Fame. Both Torre and Cox have career Impact Ratings of plus-36, the best in history. That's better than any manager enshrined in Cooperstown. Among those guys, Bill "Deacon" McKechnie, who won pennants with three of the four National League teams he managed, is a plus-29, and famed Yankees manager Miller Huggins is a plus-26. No one's likely to catch Cox and Torre anytime soon either. Tony La Russa checks in at plus-21. Minnesota's Ron Gardenhire is plus-19. Dusty Baker was a plus-18 after winning with the 2003 Cubs but slid to plus-8 before being replaced by Piniella (surprisingly a career minus-4 after the horrible start this year). from chicagosports.com (Phil Rogers) I did a quick tabulation on the rest of Guillen's career... 2004=-1 2005=+8 2006=+2 2007=+3 Overall=+12 It surprises me because I have no idea what this means or how they can possibly hope to quantify something like a manager's "impact factor."

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 30, 2007 -> 04:59 PM) Their ERA is better than ours. And our WHIP is 1.62 as a relief crew. Only Tampa Bay is behind us. And how about leads/ games blown? I'd imagine this club is near the top. I know they've already blown more than the Twins did all last season.

Balta, Where does that 500k dead Iraqis figure come from? That would be almost 350 Iraqis per DAY. That seems way, way too high.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ May 30, 2007 -> 03:34 PM) we dont need a juggernaut. All we need is bullpen pitchers that throw strikes. They dont all have to be that good. just three. Just throw strikes. And a complete offensive turn around. And we need to pitchers to start giving quality starts again.