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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 8, 2007 -> 05:41 PM) Exactly. He can't play D, can't hit, has no power, has trouble getting on base, and now our manager doesn't want him to use his legs as much, so he has diminished speed. I am having trouble seeing what he actaully brings to the table..... Grinderism!

QUOTE(caulfield12 @ May 8, 2007 -> 02:59 PM) Our playoffs, EVERYTHING went our way... 1) Two calls against Escobar with AJ at bat 2) Easy ball through Graffanino, followed by Iguchi homer when we were down 3) Pods taking Lidge deep 4) Rallying against Oswalt 5) Geoff Blum? Who? 6) Rallying against Lidge to win game 2 after Vizcaino's hit off Jenks 7) Buehrle getting a save...when we close to using Ozuna as a pitcher 8) El Duque getting 3 outs against Boston 9) Cotts getting out of 2nd and 3rd, no outs, with Jenks' help against Bagwell 10) The fact that they had to lead off with Clement in a short series Now was all of that due to luck, or do to having the right staff and having that staff perform?

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ May 8, 2007 -> 11:55 AM) But armored SUV's? I would assume that the secret service already has the current SUV's in available for use. So, would Obama be willing to pay for the new vehicle(s) for his detail, or is that an expense he wants to stick the taxpayers with? Democrats got ripped up and down by right-wingers for flying in to their debates. Now, one is taking a step to make his campaign "greener" and he's getting ripped up and down for it by right-wingers.

QUOTE(joeynach @ May 8, 2007 -> 11:22 AM) As for Freddy I think it was pretty obvious he was nearing the end of his effective pitching career. He lost close to 5 to 6 mph on his fastball and become a sort of junk baller. He couldnt challenge anyone with his 86-88 mph 4 seamer and his 2 seamer was OK. He started throwing a ton of changeups, splitters,sliders where he used to throw a 93-95 4 seam, 2 seam, overhand curve. His strikeout rate was down tremendous and his whip was up. The key thing was that in order to rear back and throw a 92 mph fastball he would leave pitches high in the zone that would get crushed, hes doin the same this year. Also, he couldn't hold anybody on base. All and all thats not the type of pitcher really anyone should want in their rotation. It was just flat out time to leave. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. A lot of people just thought that KW should have gotten more for him. Maybe other GM's just realized what Freddy was/ is.

QUOTE(Y2HH @ May 8, 2007 -> 10:18 AM) My business is mine. You don't have to come there nor do you have to work there. Apples and oranges again. Your business is still heavily regulated by federal organizations like OSHA and the EPA. Your workers are still afforded some amount of protection and workplace rights.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 8, 2007 -> 12:55 AM) Dumb argument. Getting to the playoffs is all about the GM and all that, once you get there, it's purely a matter of luck. There is no scientific way to win in the playoffs, basically you have to get hot and you have to get lucky. To blame moneyball for that is simply nonsense. Thanks It's not luck. It involves a ton of factors, but its not luck. The White Sox didn't "luck" their way into completely dominating pitching performances. I wasn't blaming moneyball for the A's lack of success. I just find it funny when people talk about how successful moneyball has been for the A's. Yes, it has allowed them to field a playoff contender for relatively cheap, but they have yet to field a World Series contender.

Does that factor in all of the money other teams might get or have to pay?

QUOTE(joeynach @ May 7, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) Well apparently $200 Mil payroll hasn't been succesful either how many WS have the yanks had recently. I'd say it takes a good combination of both. Spend some money, but don't blow it all on big-name free agents and use statistics to your advantage.

What kind of loser hacks a White Sox message board?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ May 7, 2007 -> 10:57 PM) the Red Sox won Boston had the second highest payroll in the MLB. Doesn't that go against the principles of moneyball?

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ May 7, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) The success of the A's for many years has been based on maximizing the performance they get out of guys, and then trading them to teams who will overpay for them, only to see the guy they got regress to the means (SEE: Mulder for Calero and Haren for example). In fact, they do it well in cases like Frank Thomas, Chad Bradford, etc as well in cases without trades. That is the true essence of moneyball, far more than on base percentage (although that is important too). How successful has moneyball been in winning a WS or even getting to one?

Wow. Chicago doesn't stand a chance. This is pathetic.

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QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ May 3, 2007 -> 11:31 AM) The pregnancy death thing I find odd....Why didn't Rousseau and Alex die? Ben is the father and has never been off of the island?????? Wasn't Rousseau pregnant when she was shipwrecked? I think Ben's just Alex's adoptive father.

I saw Casino Royale and thought it sucked. I'm so god-damned sick of Texas Hold'em.

Nice to see a win. I didn't get a chance to turn the game on until the bottom of the 9th.

QUOTE(Brian @ May 4, 2007 -> 07:15 PM) How many solo homers tonight? 2, for a grand total of 2 runs for the game.

QUOTE(TLAK @ May 4, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) I'm also pretty upbeat about the team. Despite not hitting they have stayed pretty aggressive, and I feel that is a key for this type of team. They keep playing hard whether they are up or down. The hitters just need to see some bad pitchers a couple of times and they will come around. A bloop and a bomb (or two) will change everyone's perspective. Maybe Paul Konerko can hit one hard before it gets dark out in LA tonight and the disease will spread. Last time they faced a really bad pitcher who was throwing meatballs all night, they got 3-hit shutout through 8 innings. They often faired similarly against poor pitchers during the second half of last season. There is no reason that the hitting "has" to come around. That's not to say that it can't or won't, just that it isn't a foregone conclusion.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:43 AM) Personally I don't think Konerko, Dye, Crede, AJP, Iguchi , Mackowiak, have really forgotten how to hit, and I really don't think bringing someone in not familiar with them at all is really going to make an immediate impact. The team will start hitting. Maybe even this weekend. What do you base that on? Their month of ineptness?

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 4, 2007 -> 11:29 AM) He's right. Its funny all the Walker has to go people didn't have much to say about Cooper when the best rotation ever assembled stunk up the place last season, and the defending world champs finished 3rd in the division. Way too much blame is being put on Walker. What do you expect an offense to be like when your leadoff man is a below average OBP guy. When AJP is batting 3rd or 4th. When you use Alex Cintron and Brian Anderson as a DH? The offense's lack of production is just as much KW and Ozzie's fault as anyone elses. How often do the Sox hit and run when they have someone on first, rather than try and put 2 runs on the board? It's not entirely lack of production that is the cause of all of this. Look at their swings and their mechanics. They're terrible.

Another quality episode. This show is fantastic.

Blowout.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ May 3, 2007 -> 11:51 PM) And had they been real instead of figments of a bad writer's imagination. . . LOL. Yeah, I usually check out articles like this. Just lazy tonight, I guess. QUOTE(BobDylan @ May 3, 2007 -> 11:26 PM) Sigh... Moan...