StrangeSox

Woo! BA woulda hit it to Indiana, though.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 31, 2007 -> 03:18 PM) Sure, and if the article had actually stated that is was about sharing, and not an exericize against the uber-evils of captialism, I might believe that for about a second. I don't know how much more clearly the intentions needed to be stated for that to be obvious to all. Exactly. This wasn't about sharing. Or teaching social responsibility. Or kindness towards others. It was about displaying the evils of capitalism and power.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 31, 2007 -> 09:12 AM) even so the whitesox were so close in giving up that lead, and in this division with the quality of teams... nobody should have a lead like that. It just goes to show that a win is a win, no matter when it comes. The only thing that matters is the final record, not when those wins are accumulated. A win in April is just a valuable as a win in late September, you just don't know it yet. The 2005 White Sox even break the mold on the whole "getting hot at the end of the regular season" thing.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Mar 31, 2007 -> 08:38 AM) Obviously he didn't mean that games in April don't count, he is just pointing out that games in September are more important. Now I know your going to just reply with a win is still a win no matter what month its in or some crap like that but, if you have a bad start in April you still have 5 months to make up for it. If you have a bad month in September your done. So being first in division/wildcard for the first 5 months of the season really isn't all that important if you lose it in the 6th and final month. Not if you build a commanding lead early on, like the 2005 White Sox.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) Got it for the PC, and my first twelve hours I haven't even done anything with tha campaign yet. The game is just massive. Does the PS3 version include the new expansion? I had about 60 hours into it and had barely touched the main quest. I sort of just got bored with it after that long.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Mar 31, 2007 -> 03:11 AM) I'm happy with this. It's good to be the underdog again. It's good to have that chip on our shoulders. No-one really expects that we'll win this division and that was the case in 2005, and look what happened. This team plays the best when they've got something to prove IMHO, and hopefully that can spur them on to at least get off to a good start. No one thought that the Bears could win the Superbowl and that they'd get walked all over by Indy. Look what happened. Sometimes you're the underdog because you're just not as good. Garland is good and will get us some wins. But when has Javy ever proven himself? When has Buehrle shown that he's rebounded from his 2nd half performance? No one is quite sure how old Contreras is and how long his arm can hold up. Our bullpen should be good, but there's a lot of inexperience there.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:42 PM) So you favor a class-based system? Tell me how that would work. I don't think anyone here favors a class-based system, but these teachers view capitalism as a class-based, unfair, unjust, corrupt, and evil system. They aren't looking for any middle ground, just to show the kids how wrong power, control, and private ownership are.

I'd like to hope that they'll take second and the WC spot.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 01:13 PM) concern's are one thing. Every team has concerns. Take a look at our division rivals. They all have concerns. The Indians have Cliff Lee and CC banged up. The tigers have Kenny Rodgers banged up. The Twins lost one pitcher to retirement and another to Tommy John surgery. The Indians lost probably there best relief pitcher to retirement. There closer is Joe Borowski for christ sake. Are you worried cause are pitchers have had a bad spring? Lots of pitcher some cy young winners have had bad springs. Spring training is not about ERA's and strikeouts. Remember this team in the past two years has won more games than any other team in MLB. More than the Yankees, Red Sox, Indians, Cardinals. Stop acting like all the sudden this team is gonna be the next Expos. Everyone should be Optimistic. Its spring, baseball is starting. Its supposed to be fun. Everyone around here is acting like the team has already lost. Its depressing. It's your prerogative to be optimistic -- not everyone is going to be, nor should everyone be. Personally, I see this team competing for the wildcard, but I can easily see how some people don't think that will be a possible by the ASB.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 12:59 PM) I honestly don't see this team winning a game this year. The team should just cancel the year. Why are we even on here, close the boards. Sell you Sox gear. The team will be shut down. The world is ending!!!!!!!! Honestly this whole "we suck" vibe is gettin old and boring. So is the whole strawman that you try to make anyone who isn't optimistic about this team out to be. There's a "we suck" vibe because a lot of people are legitimately concerned about how this team is going to be able to perform this year.

I suppose I should clarify that I agree that teaching the values you spoke of are a good thing and that I don't think unrestricted capitalism is the best thing ever. I just see this specific case as an example of teachers using the classroom to push their agenda (anti-capitalism, not striking some sort of balance) under the thin veil of promoting education.

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 30, 2007 -> 06:49 AM) Teaching social skills and the such (i.e. the benefit of assisting one's community rather than voracious self-centeredness) is what schools engage in every day. Every week, we teach appropriate behavior lessons for PBIS. It teaches them how to behave in a society in general not only for their own appropriate actions but for the indirect benefit of the school and later, the public when they graduate. I'd hardly call that socialism. I'd personally love to see the demographics of the school, the mobility rate, the poverty rate and other such indictators that can adequately describe the community in which this school is currently placed. Read some Jonathan Kozol for ideas/reasons that these things are important for behavioral work and choice of lessons (most notably "Shame of the Nation") And being an education major without having your own classroom is one thing (with the co-op, no real responsibility or accountability unless you royally screw up) but it is entirely different having a classroom day in and day out, specifically seeing the realities that some teachers see. BTW, what subject matter does your friend teach? If it is social studies, perhaps she'd like to check out the Harvard Social Studies project and/or issues centered/problem based social studies education theory. She's majoring in history/ education. It doesn't sound like socialism? Did you read the whole article closely? Here's some quotes: "To make sense of the sting of this disenfranchisement, most of the children cast Liam and Kyla as "mean," trying to "make people feel bad." They were unable or unwilling to see that the rules of the game — which mirrored the rules of our capitalist meritocracy — were a setup for winning and losing. Playing by the rules led to a few folks winning big and most folks falling further and further behind. The game created a classic case of cognitive disequilibrium: Either the system is skewed and unfair, or the winners played unfairly." " * Collectivity is a good thing: "You get to build and you have a lot of fun and people get to build onto your structure with you, and it doesn't have to be the same way as when you left it.... A house is good because it is a community house." " "From this framework, the children made a number of specific proposals for rules about Legos, engaged in some collegial debate about those proposals, and worked through their differing suggestions until they reached consensus about three core agreements: * All structures are public structures. Everyone can use all the Lego structures. But only the builder or people who have her or his permission are allowed to change a structure. " "Into their coffee shops and houses, the children were building their assumptions about ownership and the social power it conveys — assumptions that mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society — a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive. As we watched the children build, we became increasingly concerned." That doesn't sound like these teachers are socialist and have an agenda they're pushing on these kids?

QUOTE(whitesox07champs @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) Man thats just ignorant. I never said they dont count. Of course they do but tell me, last year with the start that the sox had and the start that the twins had. Which games counted more the White sox april wins or the Twins wins in September? I dont know about you, but from what I saw the Twins were a much better team when IT COUNTED. If you wanna be a dumb fan who cant see things the way they are thats youre problem. But sometimes we gotta look at the bigger picture. What's heavier - a pound of bricks or a pound of feathers? Did the Indians' wins down the stretch in '05 "count more" while the Sox looked like they might slide their way out of the playoffs? Or did they count equally as much as the Sox' dominating runs earlier in the season? Are later games somehow weighted heavier on the schedule? Like 1.1 wins?

QUOTE(LowerCaseRepublican @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 11:44 AM) Spoken like a person who has yet to step foot in a methods class, let alone an actual classroom as the instructor for a year with a group of kids. Do you agree with preaching the "evils" of capitalism to 8 year olds? I would hope that isn't taught in any methods class. I just had a brief discussion with one of my friends who is an education major (a senior) and she doesn't agree with their methods either -- specifically, they were using the Legos not as a teaching tool in order to promote critical thinking but as a tool in order to promote their agenda of socialism. Which is basically what I said.

rennlist.com talkbears.com espn occasionally for laughs.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 03:11 PM) There is waaaaay more interesting stuff in that article than just taking away the Legos. That was about .1% of the article. Seeing how kids this age acquired, wielded, tried to share, make rules, etc. was the real importance there. NSS, don't stop at the fourth graph. And if you actually read to the end, they did not ban legos. That's misleading. Well, they took them away and wouldn't give them back to the students until they "learned" to use the Legos on the teachers' terms -- i.e. form a perfect, Utopian socialist society out of Legos.

QUOTE(Reddy @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 01:44 PM) i think there is some serious overthinking things going on here... they're f***ing legos people - this is how kids have always used legos. i remember doing it too, i mean, there were definitely some pieces that we much cooler than the others. why can't people let kids just be kids these days? Because we need to teach them to be good proliteriates and overthrow the evil chains of capitalist oppression!

http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/21_02/lego212.shtml Sounds like the kids were learning quite a bit about allocation of resources and capitalism on their own before the teachers stepped in and f'ed everything up.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 12:57 PM) I'm finding it interesting how similar I find the arguments of the Loose Change guys to the arguments of the anti-evolution or anti-global warming folks. It's always the argument from Ignorance. There's no footage of this. There's no footage of that. There's no good images of this. Why can't we see the footage of this. Their entire argument is nothing but a logical fallacy. Arguments from ignorance. Ad hominem. Ignoring relevant evidence. Hearsay. Misrepresentation of irrelevant experts.

I watched the first two. Seems like PM held their ground. the Loose Change guys don't have even a basic understanding of mechanics or materials. 100 tons + 530 mph + Large, reinforced concrete structure = complete disintegration of the plane. It would have had about 25 MJ of energy -- that's an awful lot.

*********************************************************** British servicewoman seized by Iran to be released Wednesday or Thursday 2 hours, 5 minutes ago RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) - Iran will free a detained British servicewoman on Wednesday or Thursday, the Iranian foreign minister told the Associated Press. "Today or tomorrow, the lady will be released," Manouchehr Mottaki said Wednesday on the sidelines of an Arab summit that he was attending in the Saudi capital. The woman is among 15 British sailors and marines detained by Iran in disputed waters off the Iranian-Iraqi coast last week, sparking a crisis between Iran and Britain.

Yeah, that movie is pretty much a joke and just ignores tons of relevant evidence. The official story isn't 100% solid, but this story is about 1%

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 27, 2007 -> 05:25 PM) He's also under the impression that we will only have 82 wins. Even big fans of the Royals think that this is their year. Its almost time to pick another team to follow. Once you hate the manager, the GM, most of the players and their tendencies, and the minor league system, you have just made yourself lose the title of a fan, theres nothing left for you to be a "fan" of. I

QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Mar 27, 2007 -> 03:34 PM) Well for one, you are taking the extreme. Catcher to 1B isn't quite as drastic. Also, I said nothing about excelling at the position, just being able to not break yourself...c'mon now, don't put words in my mouth. A LF wouldn't be more likely to f-up his arm or shoulder trying to pitch than a pitcher?

It's not Ozzie's fault that he got injured, it just magnifies another "questionable" managing decision.