StrangeSox

Pretty good if you thoroughly crack down on them. Pretty bad if we stick our heads in the sand and pretend Wednesday was no big deal and January 20th will make right wing terrorism disappear. There are plenty of public threat assessments out there of what we are looking at in the coming weeks and months. More private/confidential ones. Nobody who actually knows what they're talking about thinks this is nbd.

Tex, honestly buddy, just go crack a history book on like any revolutionary overthrow of government, ever. A few thousand people are sufficient if enough of the military and police will stand by or support it.

If Congress and the VP is lynched live on stream at the backing of POTUS, where the fuck do you think we are right now? AT BEST we are living under military rule after a violent counter coup until things can get "sorted out," because at that point Congress and the executive are out of commission.

It's not an analogy it's a direct comparison. I'm sure the fascists thought they were doing what's best for America and Americans, as defined by the fascists. But they're violent fascists who directly attacked the United States Congress and the Vice President of the United States with the intent of lynching them and installing a fascist government. Do you understand that absent a successful counter coup to go around Trump and dod civilian command, other states national guard wouldn't have been allowed in and we could be looking at a much different situation today?

They are openly planning for violence across the country on January 17th. The US Capitol and every state capitol. Right wing terrorism has been a growing threat for years, but maybe if we ignore it it'll go away.

Buddy, one of those is a right wing fever dream driven by propaganda The other is also a right wing fever dream driven by propaganda that resulted in a violent attack after a year of violent attacks, this one directly threatening the lives of Congress and the Vice president. Please tell me you're just trolling, because this take is really something else.

Boy, love to both-sides a fascist attempt to lynch Congress and the Vice President and overthrow the federal government as a difference of opinion. This is one of the worst takes ever posted on this site. "The Nazis just wanted what they thought was best for Germany, others disagreed!" This didn't start Wednesday. This has been building for years. There were numerous attacks on state capitols last year. There was a plot to murder the Governor of Michigan. Right wing extremist violence has been rising for years. They are planning for more in the coming weeks. This will not be ending, especially if there are not serious consequences for the leaders and enablers of this movement.

It wasn't a single act, it didn't end Wednesday, and it's shameful that you're comparing fighting for civil rights and against war to a fascist insurrection.

Another POV

Here's a new member of the GOP notifying her fascist followers of the movements of pelosi in real time as they stormed the building the 2024 nominee is going to be a Trump loyalist if not Trump himself. The base detests people like Flake and Kasich these days.

There are a handful, but they've largely been pushed out of office. Tens of millions voted for Trump. They were looking to lynch Mike Pence on Wednesday. He has a firm grip on the American conservative movement.

What do conservative politicians do? Go along with the Big Lie about a stolen election the entire time, even after a violent insurrection. What does conservative media so? Amplify the Big Lie 24/7 and then blame Democrats and leftists for their violent fascist assault. Meantime, Anyone who doesn't support immediate removal and arrest for everyone who incited this insurrection should never again be within a mile of power. We need a thorough de-Trumpification of the government top to bottom.

There's video on reddit of the trumpist fasc mob dragging Sicknick out of the Capitol and beating him to death. You don't sit around hoping that enough Republicans eventually do the right thing when a majority of the House GOP delegation backed this coup and a significant number of senators did as well, not to mention at the state and various GOP org levels. They have already had their chances to step up, and they have failed. Everyone who signed on to this needs to be removed from power, and many should be in prison. Trump called for "second amendment solutions" more than four years ago. Almost the entire GOP has stood behind and enabled him in the years since.

There's a longer video of this officer being chased up several flights of stairs alone by the mob. Right before this still frame, he is blocking that open door and pushes the lead fascist back a bit. He then runs past and lures him to keep following up the stairs. If not for that, if the fascist understands where he is and keeps going directly to the Senate chamber... I imagine this officer is going to get some commendations for his actions. Edit: hero AOC making the point as well. You can't just do nothing and hope this fixes itself.

smash conservative conspiracy media or a lot of people are going to be killed and our democracy will die with them. It's not the fringe and hasn't been for a long time. Doing nothing and hoping that some Republicans "do the right thing" isn't going to work. For fucks sake, it hasn't even been a week since the "fringe" President and his enablers in Congress incited a violent mob to lynch the vice president and members of Congress, which came pretty damn close to succeeding. They're already trying to shift the narrative to whine about Twitter bans and anyone daring to "divide the country" by holding the fascists accountable. Edit: you know, I'm not sure that comparing "extreme liberals" who want things like healthcare and doing something to address global warming to violent deranged fascists is a good look right now.

The political apparatus that continues to threaten violence if there are not swift and harsh consequences for the violently anti democratic political party, this will only get worse.

The explicitly anti democratic party needs to be destroyed or it will destroy us.

DC statehood solves the specific problem of the President controlling the dc ng

A cancer in the body of American democracy that must be cut out, or it will kill it

they knowingly allowed this to happen and encouraged the crowd to do it just like he regretted condemning Charlottesville Nazis

Yup

Do franchises do the whole upstream/recruiting thing though

I'll just say that I very strongly disagree that they aren't predatory and use it as an excuse to post a Simpsons reference https://youtu.be/uuVh36vQkSI E: agree with the technical distinction from a true pyramid scheme though

Are people really defending mlm's in this thread??