StrangeSox

Influencing social behavior. Fear of disapproval of your peer group/social connections has long been used as a tool to shape what is or isn't acceptable within a given society or culture.

the only way to fix the problem is to get Ignore Herd Immunity, otherwise the posts slip through and reinfect!

Social pressures like shame can be powerful and effective. Better than police enforcement.

But, good news on the medical front!

Ok. Who will the tens of millions of unemployed Americans be able to thank once UI runs out (or their states force them to choose between their health or starvation like Iowa)? Who will the millions of state and local government employees be able to thank when they lose their jobs due to forced austerity measures? We have the economic capability to help everyone in this country who needs it, right now. We're (or really, Congress and the Executive branches) are choosing not to. They are choosing to let millions of Americans suffer and many of them to die needlessly. We've blown past Great Recession unemployment levels and are heading towards Great Depression levels. If we don't get an adequate federal response, this damage will last for years to come. So far, the message from DC is "eh, we're pretty much done. no more money" beyond some small, ineffectual ideas like a payroll tax cut. Or absurdly damaging ideas like "idk just let states go bankrupt." edit: The Fed response has been adequate but their powers are limited here. We need massive federal programs and the federal government backstopping/funding state and local level measures. I do not see many reasons to be optimistic we will get those things. edit: for reference, at the worst point of the Great Recession, we hit about 10% unemployment. We're already at 20%, and there will likely be several more weeks of 1M+ unemployment filings. The Great Depression topped out at ~25% unemployment.

Counterpoint: we could have done much, much more and chose not to. Millions will suffer and the damage will last for years because of the choices made over the past 8 weeks and the choices we'll make over the coming months. I don't think we should make excuses because we're a little bit quicker than the woefully inadequate federal response to previous economic disaster that doomed millions to unnecessary suffering. We are still a very long way from doing what we are more than capable of in this country but are simply choosing not to do.

30 million unemployment claims in six weeks.

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

Another GOP state rep is suing to overturn pritzker's order

In mid March you were insisting 50-100M people already had this in the US.

Speaking of meat processing plants: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-23/one-hundred-usda-inspectors-have-tested-positive-for-covid-19 https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242237811.html

We are now going to use the powers of the federal government to force low wage meat processing workers back on the job while giving their employees liability shields. Wonder what sort of health care plans these workers get?

How about Amazon employees being underpaid and working in dangerous conditions while Bezos becomes unfathomably wealthy off of their labor? Edit: I bet all those travel CEO's are still doing much, much, much better than the hundreds of thousands of low wage workers who have been laid off in their industry.

Per Forbes in October 2019, Jeff Bezos was worth $119B. Today, it's $140.3B. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/10/03/forbes-400-amazon-ceo-remains-richest-person-us-despite-divorce/3849962002/ https://www.forbes.com/profile/jeff-bezos/#789855e21b23 That's about $1600 per second that his wealth has increased since the October article. Compare that to the pay and conditions for Amazon warehouse and delivery workers in the midst of a pandemic. We shoveled megayatchloads of more money at the rich and powerful and have done next to nothing for most Americans let alone the most vulnerable. We bailed out the stock market. We are going to come out of this economic and health crisis a much more inequitable society with broken or destroyed public institutions in exchange for ever-more power concentrated among the wealthiest of the wealthy.

contrast:

This seems like a bad idea

(This is why they are doing this)

Australia and Hawaii are doing well too

Wondering about how well-reasoned the judge's argument is.

Yes. Basically they either did sloppy work and sloppy analysis and are spreading dangerous misinformation based on ignorance, or they're cynical enough that they want to reopen their urgent care business and are knowingly pushing for policies that will get many more people killed.

They're not overwhelmed because we're locked down and reducing retransmission rates

No, because it's not inevitable that the cases all come at once and completely overwhelm our hospitals.

Can't imagine many restaurants or theaters doing well at 25% capacity with 90% overhead costs.

The additional ~$350B in funding for small businesses lasted all of 2 minutes. Congress is doing maybe 5% of what's necessary to really address what we're facing.

What is that even supposed to mean??