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Love the thread title.
I think this is going to take a while...
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3 minutes ago, soxfan49 said:
I prefer an opt out after year 4 but if it's year 3, one of two things happens: 1) they aren't ready to win and it sucks so he leaves but at least it puts the Sox on the map as a viable FA landing spot for big names or 2) Machado can clearly see that Jimenez, Cease, Kopech, Robert and Moncada are the real deal and this is his best chance at a championship so he stays all 8 years or at least through his next opt out opportunity after year 5 or 6 (and it puts the Sox on the map as a viable FA landing spot for big names)
3) They renegotiate to keep him, much like Clayton Kershaw recently did.
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Just now, Whitesox27 said:
Even an opt-out after 4 years would be better. That gives them 19, 20, 21, and 22 to work with. I'd prefer it to be after 5 or 6 years in a perfect world but I'll take what I can get at this point.
A 3 year opt-out occurs after his age 29 season, likely to be preferred by agent and player.
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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:
I don't quite know about this but if I were a FA - 2021 is the year that I do not want to hit free agency again. MLB's next Collective Bargaining Agreement expires on December 1 of 2021, and if we are going to look at a labor impasse, even if it's a short one, it's going to totally f*** with that offseason's free agent market. If I were putting in an opt out, I'd take that 2022 season as my main first opt out so that I'm not scrambling for a contract sometime in April or May of 2022 after the strike/lockout ends.
Fair point.
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16 minutes ago, Whitesox27 said:
That article is good but signing him to a deal in which he can opt out after 3 years makes zero sense for the Sox.
As I said, I think it’ll be a bit of a novel approach. I don’t anticipate it being your standard opt-out. I think it’ll be tied to some kind of team performance or something.
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My thoughts on the Machado negotiations:
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6 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:
Do you think the Sox will offer 10-year, $325 million.
If that’s what it takes
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10 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:
If he gets a contract that is bigger than Stanton’s, I think he is going to Philly.
Nah
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4 minutes ago, Tony said:
It also doesn’t account for Manny improving the overall ballclub, and increasing attendance based on performance long term.
Which is also being modeled
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1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:
Touche. I can't help myself.
Stick around JP, I enjoy your posts
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3 minutes ago, KnightsOnMintSt said:
So I was on a run and thinking about a potential Machado to the White Sox contract. I thought to myself, “Man, I think the White Sox should give Manny 10-year, $325 million.” Then I thought, “That seems like a lot.”
I started thinking about the potential revenue that Machado alone could bring to the franchise, though. I’m no math wiz, but here’s what I came up with.
Average of 2,000 per game attendance increase at an average of $20 a ticket: $3.24 million per season.
Assume 1,500 of those people park at $20 per spot: $2.43 million.
Assume each one of those people spends an average of $15 on food: $2.43 million.
That alone is roughly $8.5 million per year in park revenue just from the Machado addition. Not even including retail sales. And I’m sure my numbers are way off, but that’s what I came up with.
This is precisely what the Sox are modeling as well.
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3 minutes ago, Tony said:
Don’t buy that for a second.
That’s Scott Boras talking
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19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:
Lol...you just don’t get it sometimes. See he had this thing called “leverage” because the White Sox wanted him for Machado reasons. He probably would have got $3M otherwise because it’s still a weak CF market.
So we overpaid him by a million?
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I get a kick out of the new topic title
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4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:
I don't think it needs to be pointed out and repeated that this move is dumb without Machado. We all know
I don’t think it’s really worth all the fretting.
Lets wait and see if it results in any other signings.
Maybe we aren’t competing against the Yankees here...
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Just now, Chicago White Sox said:
Yeah I should of clarified, much more skeptical of the Phillies part than the Yankees part. Two years is a long time to wait on Mike Trout. And I doubt the Phillies would be scheduling an in person with Bryce if they weren’t mostly serious about a legit pursuit.
Yeah, I have no idea what the Phillies are up to.
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6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:
The part that excites me is about the Yankees & Phillies. If there’s any truth to what Max is saying (which I’m skeptical of), it would be absolutely huge for us.
The Yankees part is solid
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20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:
Oh god please be true...in Max I trust!
He’s referring to Nightengale’s article from the other day.
Wouldn’t put too much stock into the part about the Sox’ offer.
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2 minutes ago, macsandz said:
Look, I'm all for a person up in age staying busy and perhaps if they can reasonably perform at a level equal to a younger generation even maintaining employment past an expected retirement age. However, in my dealings with Bruce (which are thankfully far less than they used to be) it's quite clear it's time for him to step away.
He's graduated from the guy people wanted to throw a bone to to an unhinged dinosaur that's routinely misrepresenting those that used to trust him and frankly upsetting and even offending the powers that over here and elsewhere in the industry.
He’s apparently still insisting the Yankees will not start Tulo at ss
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16 minutes ago, WarrenNewsom said:
This is my first ever post, so I understand if it looks like a troll job.
A friend of mine who lives in Chicago (let's call him Tom) is friends with a guy (let's call him Mitch) who works very closely with an owner of another prominent MLB team. Tom has gotten front row Cubs tickets, luxury box Bears tickets, etc because of this connection.
Around the time of the Winter Meetings, Mitch told Tom to bank on Bryce to the Cubs. Tom had heard the same reports as the rest of us with the Cubs not being involved but the other guy said it was a done deal and just took moving salary out. He said the following guys might get traded... Heyward, Happ, Russell, Schwarber and Quintana. Mitch also told him it would probably happen soon and this was 3+ weeks ago so that part of the story already is lacking. I've met Mitch quickly when he hooked us up with some Yankees-Cubs tickets two summers ago (I despise the Cubs but wasn't going to pass up that chance) and he seems down to earth and definitely connected. Tom thinks Mitch's word is gospel but obviously a lot of BS gets floated out in different circles.
Just thought I'd pass it on, it sounded like nonsense cocky Cub talk, but Mitch is affiliated with a rival of the Cubs so it wasn't wishful thinking or anything on his part.
Welcome!
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1 minute ago, ChiliIrishHammock24 said:
David Vassegh was right, YOU'RE ALL ANIMALS!!
LOL just kidding. If BW doesn't reply, I'll come back to this thread tonight to share what I got. Calm down, we're all rooting for the same team here.
Just saw B/W on a plane to Chicago sitting between two big dudes
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Pure guess here:
Kelvin Herrera.
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11 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:
What this guy doesn’t get is a secondhand source is a secondhand source and their opinions should not be construed as fact like Dan reported.
It’s also something he won’t ever need to share...
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2 minutes ago, Chi Town Sox said:
I was on a Southwest flight from Midway to Philly with Andre Iguodala before, you are correct.
Ok guys, not saying rich people don’t fly Southwest.
Just saying Manny Machado isn’t flying commercial to Chicago right now. If it was for any reason we want it to be, the Sox simply wouldn’t allow it to happen.
Machado signs with Padres 10/300
in The Diamond Club
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Would like to see them come off the 7 years and push up to 8/$275 or so. There’s slowplaying and there’s lowballing.
Let’s not open this back up to shorter-term bidding.