JUSTgottaBELIEVE

I mean it’s 3 am after a blowout loss and they’re cheering them home. That’s pretty unusual imo. I consider myself a die hard but I can’t hold a candle to most of the fans in Green Bay.

I mean, if the White Sox win 100 close games this year and advance to the ALCS I’d consider it a huge success.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox6now.com/2020/01/20/go-pack-go-titletown-faithful-welcome-the-packers-back-to-green-bay/amp/ Best fans in the NFL. It’s still remarkable to me that a city of population 105,000 has one of the largest and most loyal fanbases in the league. It truly is amazing.

Congrats on “knowing” that a 7 point favorite would win. So bold of you. Who’s going to win the Super Bowl genius?

Great first year for LaFleur. Much better than I expected tbh. Hopefully they shore up that run D and add a couple more playmakers on offense for next season.

Great analogy. I would absolutely become an STL fan and Cubs fans 40 years from now would be like you can’t be a true Chicagoan and cheer for the Cardinals!

Yep

Let me tell you why I grew up a Packers fan from my father. Dad was born and raised by Midway, die hard Sox fan. Cheered for the Chicago football Cardinals, who played at old Comiskey. When the Cardinals moved out of Chicago he wouldn’t dare cheer for the team that played at the Sox crosstown rival stadium in Wrigley (Bears) so he decided to cheer for the Bears’ biggest rival (Packers). Now that’s a die hard Sox fan, Sox > Chicago.

I saw that in real time. I’m like why the hell is the Fox yellow marker almost a half yard off? He was definitely short of the Fox yellow line but the actual first down mark he was very close. If he was short it was by inches and certainly not enough evidence to overturn imo. Would have made for an interesting call if it was 4th and inches. Go for the first down to end it or attempt the 53 yard field goal to go up by 8 or punt to pin the Seahawks down within the 10. I’d probably have gone for the first down To end it there.

Who’s the backup SS when Madrigal is promoted? Leury Garcia? I’m assuming Mendick to start the year but will both Mendick and Madrigal be on the big league roster? Worth noting that TA has missed an average of 21 games per season over the last 3 years.

Actually, today’s signing is the most impactful from an fWAR standpoint. Steamer projects 1.5 for EE, while CWS received -3.5 fWAR from their DHs in 2019. Massive swing in production from that position.

Grandal + Abreu + Keuchel + Gonzalez + Encarnacion = $195M (excluding options/incentives for simplicity) Added ~$67M to 2020 payroll -> projected 11.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($5.78M/fWAR) Machado $30M in 2020 -> projected 4.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($6.52M/fWAR)

Only if they already had above replacement level players at those 4 positions, which they didn’t.

3 if you aren’t including Abreu and they’re not done yet

For those keeping tabs at home: Grandal + Abreu + Keuchel + Gonzalez = $183M (excluding options/incentives for simplicity) Added ~$55M to 2020 payroll -> projected 10.1 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($5.45M/fWAR) Machado $30M in 2020 -> projected 4.6 fWAR in 2020 per steamer ($6.52M/fWAR) This is why signing Machado never made sense. And the impact of multiple signings to fill multiple glaring holes only makes the argument stronger if you were to do a comparison versus the cheaper backup alternative (e.g., Keuchel vs Covey, Grandal vs McCann, etc). Still another ~$70M to burn so now go out and get an established DH and RP to finish this thing off.

I didn’t think they’d pull it off the way things were headed this offseason but signing Keuchel was so very desperately needed if they wanted any shot at contending in 2020. I still think the starting staff is average overall but average is better than what they’ve had in recent years and at least now there’s a bit of depth as well.

I take back everything I said! Didn’t think Jerry and the boys had it in them, now go get a DH and RP. Go Sox!!!

I’m not even questioning TA’s projections all that much (though they do appear to be on the high end) but the only way Lindor doesn’t exceed 10 WAR over the next two seasons combined is if he misses time due to injury. You’re too low on him.

What source are you using for projected wins above replacement? Please post a link. I’m curious.

And you called my citing of Giolito’s 2020 projection dumb...?

Without a doubt, I’d trade TA for Lindor straight up right now. I’d be surprised if the Indians seriously considered that type of offer though.

I’ve got Kopech in there. I’m not expecting much of anything from Dunning or Rodon in 2020.

2019 => 2020 Giolito => Giolito Lopez => Lopez Nova => Gonzalez Cease plus pile of suck => Cease Rodon plus pile of suck => ? Plus Kopech at least that’s how I see it. Just have to hope for no injuries because then we’re back to pile of suck as the replacement...

Again, Gio is fine but you’re definitively taking the over on 2.0 fWAR for Gio in 2020? I’m not so sure about that.