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I’d be more disappointed with India’s season to date if the Sox had drafted him instead. He has more power than Madrigal but a 25.5 K% is not a good sign for a 22.5 yo in A+. For reference, Moncada had a 21.1 K% as a 21 yo in A+. Joey Gallo had a 26.0 K% as a 20 yo in A+. India has nowhere near the same power as Gallo so unless he cuts that strikeout rate significantly, he’s going to have a tough time in AA on up.

I’m thinking the Sox want him in MLB for at least half of next season. With that in mind, I’m thinking a promotion to AA shortly after the June draft aligns with their timeline.

Right but just saying as his floor of 650/675 OPS still results in a 1.5-2 fWAR player. Not a bad floor for sure.

I love that the kid hardly makes errors and seems to have terrific range at 2b. His 989 fielding percentage in the minors is fantastic. Between the glove and baserunning, he could be a very solid contributor even with just a ~675 OPS in the bigs.

Once Madrigal gets that BA up to 290 or so I hope they promote him to Birmingham. Not much left for him to prove in Winston Salem. No he hasn’t hit for power but he has a BA of 290 and OBP of 350 with 20 stolen bases and just 11 strikeouts in 69 games at WS between last year and this year.

They are now bearing the fruits of their top ranked farm system from a few years ago. It’s taken awhile for guys like Buxton, Kepler, Rosario, Polanco to hit their stride but they’ve been gradually improving the last few seasons. This Twins team now is what I expect the Sox to look like come 2021/2022.

Hard to take any of your opinions serious when you figured out just this past weekend that the Twins have a very good young core and will be a formidable division rival for the next several years.

Wait, you and others weren’t worried about the Twins less than a month ago. What changed??

2021. Been saying it for a year now and sticking to it.

Exactly. And that’s how I started this whole discussion. Lack of control/command is what killed him last year. Improving in that one area has made a world of difference in both his mental state and subsequent results. And that’s why the Glasnow comp is relevant because it is the same thing that plagued him. Just look at Glasnow’s numbers the last 3 years in MLB. Each year his walk rate improved so did his ERA. This isn’t rocket science. Even with great stuff it’s tough to be effective when you are walking 5 or 6 every 9 innings.

Well, that’s what the big boys thought before they played the Royals and Indians in the playoffs from 2014-2016 as well. Those teams fared just fine against the “big boys”. Not saying the Twins are World Series bound but to assume they will get slaughtered in the playoffs is a dangerous assumption.

The front half of it is definitely going to be a struggle with the Twins and that’s what I told you a month ago. You dismissed it. Thankfully Sox contention window doesn’t open until 2021 and hopefully lasts until 2025/2026.

Stay hot Yo Yo

Tilson has been a really tough out since his callup

I wish McCann could catch every game. He’s been the real MVP for the Sox this season. It’s a completely different team with him at catcher compared to Castillo.

Robert has 15 SBs in 39 games this year. Seems like he has legitimate 30/30 potential in the big leagues early in his career. I can’t think of many center fielders that have done that over the past couple decades. Looks like Trout has only done it once in his career, back in 2012 his first full season in MLB.

Great to see the Sox offense take advantage of the error. Something they haven’t done well in the past. Error led to 3 unearned runs.

Dude, Sox are winning 4-1 on the road against the Twins’ best starting pitcher and you’re sitting here obsessed with last winter repeating the same shit in the game thread you repeat in every other thread. Please take it to the other threads dedicated to that shit. Thank you

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Nope, didn’t say that. It was lack of control (mechanical issues) compounded by mental issues. Simply pointing to advanced metrics and saying his stuff was terrible is too simplistic. Why was his stuff bad? It was clearly very good just 2-3 years ago. Where did it go? He’s not even 25 years old yet. Did his stuff suddenly vanish with no hope of returning? It seems that was your position a few months ago...

If true, then you are severely underrating the mental aspect of the game and how that can affect performance, something Giolito was clearly struggling with last year. These are human beings, not robots. His mechanical issues compounded with his mental issues and resulted in the mess we witnessed for much of last season.

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And neither does simply pointing to advanced metrics. If you played baseball at a high level, you understand how fragile the mental side of the game can be. You say Giolito’s stuff sucked last year but why did it suck? I believe much of it was tied to his mental state/lack of confidence and conviction in executing his pitches. This was a direct result of working through mechanical issues and diminished control/command. It’s all related and a domino effect.

You’ve played baseball at a high level right? Anyone that has knows how much of a mental game it is. And Giolito is clearly very intelligent and likely an over thinker when he’s struggling. If he’s overthinking his every movement and “aiming” the ball in an attempt to throw more strikes it absolutely has a negative result on his pure stuff.

Absolutely it does. If you are hitting corners instead of throwing the ball over the heart of the plate, your chances for a swinging strike is exponentially increased. Also, if you are ahead in the count 0-2, 1-2 rather than 2-0, 3-1 again your chances of a swinging strike are exponentially increased because the hitter can’t sit dead red. They have to be ready for anything and in defense mode with anything close to the plate.