JUSTgottaBELIEVE

The next 12-18 months will certainly define Elias’ tenure with the Orioles..

Has Bummer really figured it out though? His ERA this season with the Braves is in line with his career ERA. I think he’s still a hard guy to trust in high leverage situations (like Kopech) and decent middle relievers just don’t carry much trade value at all.

I have no idea if contending teams will buy into Soroka’s recent resurgence as a reliever but if the Sox can swing him for a 40 FV type prospect that’s better than I thought they’d get for him back in April.

His average fastball velocity is higher this season than during any other season in his career. I’m sure part of that has to do with half his outings being in relief. Relief pitchers are weird. Some guys that absolutely suck as starters end up being very good relievers in their late 20s or early 30s. He’s only 26 still.

Depends on how you value Kjerstad. I’m not as high on him as many on here are.

Mostly because I don’t think Robert has a ton of value at this point. I think that’s about the best you’re going to get for him right now.

Hmm.. I actually like all of those trades for the Sox. Orioles basically have to move Hjerstad ASAP. He’s already 25 (10 months younger than Andrew Vaughn), barely getting at bats with the Os, and when he does get at bats not performing particularly well.

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Isn’t it supposed to be a different font color?

Huh? Tampa has made the playoffs 5 years in a row.

3.8 bWAR, 2.3 fWAR for Fedde as June nears a close. Who had that on their bingo card before the season started?

They were a popular pick headed into 2021 for sure but I don’t recall there being multiple articles from mlb.com or others picking them to win the World Series like I do with the Orioles.

The Sox were a trendy pick going into 2021 only if I remember correctly. I don’t recall them having the same multi year hype the orioles have had recently though. Crazy to think that the Orioles are a Burnes injury away from not even making the playoffs this year despite a great offense. Meanwhile, Guardians have JRam, Kwan and a bunch of no names in their lineup and seem to match up just fine with the Orioles.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t recall seeing articles like this in back to back years predicting the Sox would win multiple pennants in the coming years like they are predicting with the Orioles. https://www.mlb.com/news/predicting-world-series-winners-from-2023-2032 https://www.mlb.com/news/predicting-world-series-winners-through-2033

Speaking of which, the AL West is perennially underrated in recent years. All they do is advance ALCS winners most years. Of course most of that was the Astros but then we had the Rangers last year (who had to beat the Astros in the ALCS in an all AL West matchup to win the WS).

See post above. AL East is perennially overrated. All they do is choke in the playoffs these days. This isn’t the early 2000s.

And the Orioles are on the verge of getting swept at home by the weakest division leader in mlb. And I love how everyone fawns over the AL East and yet that division has made less World Series appearances over the last 10 years than the worst division in MLB, the AL Central.

I disagree. The Orioles are much more of a sure thing to win a World Series over the next few years according to the pundits than the Sox ever were.

I think Baltimore is going to be an interesting case study 5 years from now when many try to figure out how that team never made it to the World Series.

I could see pros/cons to both sides. You go with quality and something like Basallo, Kjerstad, plus a couple fliers but if Basallo or Kjerstad flop you’re in a world of hurt.

Rushing, De Paula, Ryan, Hurt, Ferris, Cartaya not enough? 2 - 55 FVs 4 - 50 FVs that’s alot

I think they could theoretically get it done but it’s likely 6 or 7 of their top 10 prospects that would need to be included in that deal no?

What would a Dodgers trade for both Robert and Crochet even look like?

Not really. He’s a one pitch pitcher and his fastball is straight.

Crochet up to 3.8 bWAR and 3.2 fWAR. He ranks #2 in MLB for both. Very curious to see what the rumored trade offers are next month.