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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Feb 7, 2018 -> 03:44 PM) DAN CLARK‏Verified account @DanClarkSports The #Orioles and #Indians spoke this past week about a potential trade for Manny Machado. https://twitter.com/DanClarkSports/status/961328256015192064 makes too much sense. said this weeks ago. I hope they make the deal too because that depletes their farm system moving forward for a one year run at a title (in a year the Sox are not trying to compete).

This is an example of why I don't place an overemphasis on number of rings when evaluating all time great QB's. Brady played outstanding and still lost. Yes, he fumbled at a key moment in the game but he otherwise put up ridiculous numbers and moved the offense down the field at will. Yet, his defense failed him and that's why they lost. It's the same reason Rodgers only has one ring right now (well that and Bill B. >>> McCarthy).

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 27, 2018 -> 02:12 PM) He had us #10 last year, and that was after the Sale/Eaton trades; since then we picked up an elite talent from Q, but Moncada, Giolito and Lopez graduated. Still the Sox rose 6 spots...he must like a lot of the secondary acquisitions. I'm pretty stoked about #4, considering the above. But ranking the Sox #10 at this time last year was a joke.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 27, 2018 -> 01:56 PM) Sounds about right to me. Sox have nowhere near the depth as those teams. I disagree. I think they are just as deep or even deeper than the Yankees now and better at the top. It’s close with the Padres. I’d give the Padres a slight edge in depth but I like the Sox top 5 much better.

Law has the Sox as the #4 farm system. Seems low. He has Braves, Yankees and Padres as #1-3 in that order.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2221144...petitive-cancer I mean his view is certainly biased but I agree with him in some aspects.

QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Jan 18, 2018 -> 02:29 PM) Look at how baseball cube comes up with their speed rating. "Speed: Number of stolen bases per trips to first base. Does not consider whether there are other runners on base blocking his path". That is legitimately the worst way to measure speed I've ever seen. My baseball cube page says I had a higher speed rating than Jacob May. I can assure you that I was never faster than Jacob May and it probably wasn't even close.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 02:37 PM) The upside to Reed is not high enough to offset the risk. Go back to guys like Kahnle or Swarzak, dealt to the Brewers who was pretty pedestrian with Minnesota, etc. it’s not like when we paid through the teeth for Linebrink and Dotel, but it’s not really necessary either. Heck, I’d rather that we tried to fix Albuquerque, but Cooper passed on that one. Nunez doesn’t make sense with SANCHEZ, Davidson and Leury still around. Seems like he becomes another Bonifacio or Beckham on our roster and is dumped for a meh return. We still have to see Delmonico, Cordell, Tilson as well...plenty of young players to throw out there. Gillespie, maybe. I’m assuming they will try to trade Kevan Smith, that deal for Castillo was kind of the outlier, which probably has more to do with pitch framing and managing a young staff than anything else. Smith is limited by the lack of power for someone that size, no matter how much he overachieved compared to low expectations entering the year. I guess I'm just a Reed fan so I disagree. I also think the bullpen is still a hot mess even after accounting for the additions of Soria and Avilan. I don't think adding a guy like Reed "blocks" anyone else either. Not for the next 2 years at least.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 01:28 PM) $8 million is a lot for me to give up for a reliever on this team for 2018 if I'm not getting another piece back along with it. That $8 million is way more useful to me next offseason. See edit above. I think you would get another piece back (and possibly 3 pieces back). If he was traded this July, he wouldn't be on the books for next offseason anyway. What's the worst thing that could happen? He gets hurt or performs lousy and you are still stuck with him for one more season at a still reasonable rate. If his ~$8.5MM contract next season is a deal breaker in whether or not the Sox sign a guy like Machado, then this rebuild is in serious trouble.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 15, 2018 -> 01:18 PM) At this point, Soria is the closer until someone takes the job from him, and I'm totally ok with that. No reason to sign another reliever this year - if we can develop a couple from our system that makes us a lot better in 2019, and we could darn well find another "Soria" like guy that a team has soured on to take on and that would serve us better than signing one because presumably we'd get something else for taking on the salary. There's really no reason to pay full price for a free agent on this team this year. I guess that was kind of my point. It doesn't seem Reed accepted "full price" because he wanted to play in the Midwest. 2 years/$17MM for a solid reliever in his prime (be it setup guy or closer) is peanuts in this market and another flippable asset 6 months from now. The young guys will have plenty of time to prove themselves after that and into 2019... Edit: for reference, although the Red Sox didn't trade any premier prospects for Reed last July, they did trade 3 of their top 30 prospects for him. Barring a significant decrease in performance in the first half of the season, no reason to think he couldn't return a similar package this July. Possibly even more if he proved he could successfully close over the first 4 months.

At this point, the only area I would consider FA signing is pitching. Pitching on short term contracts (assuming they are performing moderately well) can always be flipped at the deadline. Disappointed the Sox didn't make a play for Reed considering what he signed for. Could be a solid trade chip at either this or next year's deadline, especially if he were tasked with closing.

Yep I’m down with weekly lineups and a nominal entry fee. A 30 team league with full 25/40 man rosters would be a blast.

QUOTE (Moncada @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 06:24 PM) I was thinking free, with an optional money pool I’d be interested if there was a nominal entry fee to keep people’s interest. Been in too many free leagues over the years where half the league loses interest before the all star break.

QUOTE (Moncada @ Jan 2, 2018 -> 03:16 PM) It's a little slow so I thought I'd see if there is any interest. I'd like to start a large 30 team deep Dynasty league (message board in conjunction with Fantrax) Something like 25-30 major league roster with 15-20 minor league roster. Mods please move in need be. Message me or post if there is any interest. The sooner the better. List of those interested: Moncada LTBF cjgalloway SmashROT jerksticks Entry fee?

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 12:20 PM) Cameron wrote an article today suggesting the Indians go after Machado and move Ramirez back to 2B. That would be ideal for us IMO, subtract from their future years when we'll be competitive. I said this in this thread about 15 pages back. Why are the Indians not major players for Machado? Their window is closing fast and they are in win-now mode. On top of that, they can't rely on Kipnis at this point (plus he's being floated as trade bait) so Ramirez is their STARTING 2b next year just as he was at the end of last season. Machado is a HUGE upgrade over Urshela/Diaz. Plus, that type of addition more than offsets the loss of Santana's bat in the lineup. It makes too much sense for where they are currently positioned.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 20, 2017 -> 08:19 AM) No doubt. It remains to be seen how effective it will be. It's a very good test case for sure. I haven't seen a starting pitcher hit the weights this hard and undertake such an unorthodox training program since Roger Clemens. I'm sure there are others but none that I am aware of or at least none that I have seen documented so openly. If he has half the career Clemens did, I'd be thrilled.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 16, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Trading Russell and his control for one year of Manny makes no sense either, especially if Harper is your long-term guy I thought Jason Heyward is their long term guy? Whether they like it or not

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 15, 2017 -> 08:19 AM) I was just saying the teams he mentioned. He also said the Marlins because he’s from Miami. I didn’t mention them because he talked about that not happening now with their rebuild. Understood. Comment was directed to Heyman. Boston and New York seems like the safe answer but in this case probably not the most logical.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 15, 2017 -> 06:57 AM) Of course Jon Heyman, on the score, mentions Yankees and Red Sox next offseason for Machado. But they’re not quite sure where Machado is going to want to go yet. I don't understand why the Red Sox would be a fit if they believe in Devers and Xander is under control through 2019, why not just extend him? Also, haven't the Red Sox effectively eliminated themselves as an option because of the recent bad blood? I know, money talks, but if it's the difference between $325M and $340M or something to that effect I can't see him choosing the Red Sox. The Yankees only make sense if they are willing to exceed the luxury tax threshold.

I'm surprised the Indians aren't one of the top suitors. Hell, they were running out Urshela at 3B at the end of last season and their window is closing soon.

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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:39 AM) I just meant at some point. I'm sure they will sign a stop-gap, backup IF to open the year. Darwin Barney if they want someone cheap to fill in temporarily and defend really well makes sense. Gotcha. I think they really liked what Frazier did there last year especially during the playoffs. He seems like a logical vet presence/bridge to a young player like Andujar. But I really do think a guy like Yolmer is a perfect fit for them too because of his defensive versatility. They should have enough offense already and could easily get away bating a guy like Sanchez 9th that provides premium defense.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) I would guess: 1. Brett Gardner, DH 2. Aaron Judge LF 3. Giancarlo Stanton, RF 4. Gary Sanchez, C 5. Greg Bird, 1B 6. Didi Gregorious 7. Aaron Hicks CF 8. Gleyber Torres, 2B 9. Miguel Andujar, 3B (Headley just dealt) Corners will rotate a lot between those spots and DH for days off. I'd be shocked if the Yankees started two young, unproven rookies in the infield to begin the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see them bring Frazier back. Also, makes Yolmer Sanchez much more appealing for the Yankees given his defensive ability to play 2b and 3b at a high level...

In a straight up trade I'd guess Frazier nets someone like Mike Foltynewicz. That's about where I see his value right now. He wouldn't return a Teheran unless the Yankees included additional prospects.