JUSTgottaBELIEVE

That’s gotta hurt...Fellow first round 1b Pratto and White haven’t exactly torn it up this year either, particularly in the power number categories...

Yea, I wonder how that guy feels about #7 overall pick last year Pavin Smith’s results this year...

Is @greg775the real slim shady?

Guess who’s back? Back again

The WS just started their rebuild 18 months ago. Every one of the trades you reference above was made 2.5+ years ago. Give it time. I bet Moncada ends up with a much better career than any of the guys the Astros gave up in those 4 trades.

But he’s not near 40%, he’s just under 35% for his career. Someone mentioned Judge but Kris Bryant is another example of a guy that struck out >30% in his first 500 plate appearances. Like Judge, he’s not just a perennial all star, he’s a perennial MVP. Also worth noting Bryant was 23 during his rookie year and Judge was 25. Moncada just turned 23. Far too early to write this kid off. He still has perennial all star ability.

Yea, Gio has definitely been working deeper into games in more recent outings. Shields hasn't been a problem at all this year. He's worked at least 5 innings every start this year.

I mentioned this in yesterday's game thread. I don't see it as a coincidence that the Sox are 12-13 since demoting Fulmer (11-29 before then). Replacing just that one guy in the rotation with someone pitching like an ace has a domino effect on the rest of the staff and team. Fulmer's 8+ ERA was atrocious but equally damaging was the fact that he averaged less than 4 innings per start this year. That puts a ton of stress on the bullpen covering for a guy like that every fifth game especially when they are usually doing the same, to a lesser degree, for Giolito starts.

Helps when you replace a guy that can barely go 5 innings without giving up 5+ runs with a guy pitching like a legit ace so yea I don’t find it to be a coincidence. Also helps minimize bullpen exposure, which has also performed very well the last 4 weeks, again probably not a coincidence. This is the reason why adding a solid vet to this staff over the winter is so important. Further stabilize the rotation until we know what we have with all the prospects and to provide additional depth.

12-13 in 25 games since Fulmer demotion. That ain’t half bad

Amazing how competitive this team has looked since Fulmer was demoted and the starting rotation started to settle in.

Not impressed by either pitcher. Mize has no control today and Singer has been laying in 91-93 mph meatballs that would be crushed by better hitters. Also, is India having trouble throwing to 1b? Yips? Let a routine throw sail on him. Bailed out of an error by a very nice play by the first basemen and the announcers made a comment about India’s throws to first being an adventure of late. Took me about 30 minutes of watching that game to feel even more confident in the Madrigal selection.

https://mobile.twitter.com/PitchingNinja/status/1005408274278207488?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet That’s a nasty two seamer and, if he can locate that pitch consistently, he’s going to be a very successful big league pitcher.

lol

So we’ll ask again, is Dylan Covey our Jake Arrieta of this rebuild?

What if Covey turned into our Jake Arrieta? That would be both hilarious and remarkable at the same time.

Well yes and the fact that Machado is a better all around player than JD. People can trash Manny's defense at SS all they want but even a below average defender at a premium position is much more valuable than a horrendous defender at a non-premium position. Plus Manny has the ability to play SS and 3B whereas JD was barely passable as an OF only (but really he's a DH).

Seems there will be plenty of interest. I think you will surprised by the return. I can GUARANTEE he brings back considerably more than JD Martinez did last year (unless he's injured). https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/05/manny-machado-baltimore-orioles-trade-market-rumors-cubs-indians-red-sox-dodgers-mlb

But Machado is playing shortstop this year while on pace for a 9 WAR season. There is no glut of premium shortstops available in this market. I can see just about every NL contender looking for an upgrade at shortstop outside of perhaps the Cardinals and Nationals. The Orioles are going to get a haul for Machado and a DH/OF defensive liability like JD Martinez is not a good comp.

When exactly should the Orioles have traded Machado? They were an 89 win playoff team in 2016 and still trying to compete last year (can’t blame them for that). They will get more for Machado in season than they would have last winter so I don’t follow your logic that (1) they held on to him too long and (2) they will get pennies on the dollar for him (I think they will get a very nice haul this July with the way he’s playing). I think they absolutely made the right decision to let it play out until this trade deadline rather than accept a subpar package last winter.

Doubt that

Oh yeah, I could definitely see them winning 91 games after a 26-24 start type start but 100+ Wins? Nah, not again if they are still hanging around .500 at the end of this month.

Winning 22 consecutive is still more remarkable. And yea, I don’t see them ripping off a 71% winning percentage the last 100 games of this season considering the 22 game win streak was a big part of it (49-29 excluding the win streak - still great but nothing extraordinary).

Why do people continue saying this? Sanchez has been one of the few bright spots this year. To me, the pitching still needs plenty of reinforcements over the next two winters even after factoring in future contributions from prospects. That’s far and away the biggest need imo. The offense looks pretty good in the near future between Moncada, Anderson, Davidson, Sanchez, Abreu, Jimenez, Robert, Collins, etc. assuming they can keep those guys relatively healthy.

They also won 22 consecutive games in the second half. That won’t happen again.