JUSTgottaBELIEVE

No doubt Lebron is "shook" after this play by Curry http://www.nba.com/video/2017/06/01/004160...-cle-gsw-play18

QUOTE (Tony @ May 31, 2017 -> 05:24 PM) Schwarber is all sorts of messed up. OVER-RATED, clap, clap, clappity, clap

Cubs just got swept by the Padres. That's embarrassing

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 29, 2017 -> 04:09 PM) Without looking hard, there aren't 1B's better than Abreu? Forgot about Garcia AL 1b are down big time this year. He easily stands out as within the top 2 in the league

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 29, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Figuratively of course but if the ASG rosters were announced today, who would the Sox rep be? Kahnle? Abreu and Garcia for sure

This is how Hansen gave up his only run yesterday wow; http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/05/28/233065...two-outfielders

QUOTE (flavum @ May 27, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) I'm not big on prospect lists, but I think Kopech should be 2. And maybe Robert could play a month of affiliated baseball before being any higher than 5. Play first, then get ranked. Looks like they are making some other updates as we speak. Robert #3 for Sox while Giolito slides down to #4 and Kopech moves up to #2. Makes sense to me.

Pipeline updated to include Robert, nice http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=cws

https://mobile.twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/...227078843490304 Callis slotting Robert in at #27 overall. Now have 7 players in the top 100 per pipeline, second only to Atlanta's 8. Should add a few more by July too between the draft and trades.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 25, 2017 -> 12:41 PM) Can't remember what the offer was exactly , all could find from Google was somethng from sports mockery ( yeah, I know ) that said Martes, Tucker and Paulino were offered. If true, that's a good offer albeit not optimal as far only getting one hitter back. Solid offer but the would urge passed as well. Best I could find was this. Please don't shoot the messenger. http://sportsmockery.com/2017/01/houston-a...ntana-revealed/ There's limited hitters worthy of going high in the draft so I'm expecting a pitcher to be honest. I hope a hitter like Haseley or Pavin falls but not counting on it. If the BPA @ #11 happens to be a pitcher that's fine with me. I would rather take a pitcher over Adell. Not sure what's going on with Martes' severe control issues this season but I'd take that offer then and now. Even if Martes and Paulino end up as bullpen pieces, I REALLY like Tucker's potential and the idea of plugging him into an outfield alongside a similarly aged Luis Robert.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 16, 2017 -> 05:53 PM) Meanwhile, Tyler Flowers at .352 and 900 ops in 70+ at-bats. That's crappy NL pitching for you. Flowers also posted a 110 wRC+ last year. His previous career high was 96.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 16, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) Trading Schwarber at his lowest possible value is not something Epstein would contemplate for long. There's a real possibility that it could go lower from here...

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Apr 30, 2017 -> 09:17 PM) Oh ok. Thought you were calling me a clown for my post. I just can't believe how overrated Schwarber is. He's a one dimensional player and unless he's mashing like big papi in his prime he's going to be hard pressed to be a 3+ WAR player over a full season because of his defensive limitations. Yet some Sox fans I know want to trade Q for him straight up and some people somehow think he's a top 20 player in baseball. I really don't get it. I can't think of another player more overrated in today's game. Now Scot Gregor thinks this is a "trade match made in heaven." http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20170515...a-for-schwarber

QUOTE (bmags @ May 11, 2017 -> 09:35 AM) Development isn't always a linear path, see our own 2014 pick. If he gets back to being a great OBP/Power hitter then he'll be a great asset. Red Sox miss their defensively-missing LH power hitter. That's exactly my point. Because of his other limitations, he has to hit like Ortiz or Thomas to live up to the hype and be a great asset. Otherwise he's just a guy, let's call him Kendrys Morales for lack of a better term.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ May 10, 2017 -> 07:27 PM) And was great(albeit in an extremely small sample size) in a World Series in which he missed an entire season. He also put up monster numbers in the minor leagues. It's easy to see why Cubs fans and pundits love the guy. That said, he's been awful so far this year. Like you said, his overall story can go a lot of ways but I'm guessing the guy becomes becomes a pretty great hitter. How would you define "great" hitter? Are we talking Frank Thomas/David Ortiz numbers? Anything less and I just can't see how he'd live up to the hype. He basically has to hit at that level to be a consistent 3-4+ WAR player due to his baserunning and defensive limitations. His career could go one of two ways and it's really not that hard to imagine it taking a turn for the worse if he doesn't figure out how to adjust to the league's adjustments. Personally, I don't see a lot of value in a DH that can only hit righties (even that has been a struggle this year), especially for an NL team.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 30, 2017 -> 09:08 PM) I agree with every part of your post. I'm saying don't waste your time with Jordan4life. Anyone that says Kyle f***ing Scwarber has them "more shook" than any player in baseball other than Mike Trout is a total f***ing clown. Oh ok. Thought you were calling me a clown for my post. I just can't believe how overrated Schwarber is. He's a one dimensional player and unless he's mashing like big papi in his prime he's going to be hard pressed to be a 3+ WAR player over a full season because of his defensive limitations. Yet some Sox fans I know want to trade Q for him straight up and some people somehow think he's a top 20 player in baseball. I really don't get it. I can't think of another player more overrated in today's game.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 30, 2017 -> 08:31 PM) Don't waste your time with this clown, he's just looking for attention. Come again? What part of my post do you disagree with and name another player that's more overrated than Schwarber. For christ's sake, you'd think he was the second coming of Babe Ruth for all the hype he's gotten over the past two years.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 01:48 PM) you're not going to like this, rowand44. But Kyle Schwarber eats baseballs and has me shooker than any player in baseball sans Mike Trout. Pretty sure Schwarber is the most overrated player in baseball. He's struggling big time with off speed stuff this year. Plus he's a complete liability in the field.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Apr 21, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) When Moncada became available late in the signing period, he got $31.5 mill from the Red Sox (who I believe were already over). That should probably factor into your estimate and skew the number up more a bit. I did not use Moncada's number for three reasons; One, the typical big spenders on international free agency aren't even in the running for Robert (Boston, LA, CHC, NYY, etc). I don't think this can be minimized. Two, I believe Moncada was generally more highly regarded than Robert. Three, Moncada is the current #1 prospect in MLB and has basically been top 5 since signing. While Robert has the potential to get there, he's not there yet in most people's eyes.

Some have stated Robert would be a potential 1-1 pick in this year's draft. Also, it has been stated that he is the top international prospect currently available and a potential top 25 prospect in MLB upon signing. So what is that worth on the open market? A few points of reference: - The last two 1-1 picks have signed for an average of $6.3MM (understood that this number is heavily skewed because of the cap rules) - The top international prospect in 2016 and #29 ranked per MLB pipeline Kevin Maitan signed for $4.25MM - The top international prospect in 2015 and #14 ranked in Rays org per MLB pipeline Lucius Fox signed for $6MM Based on some of the reference points above, I don't see it taking more than a $13MM signing bonus to land Robert. But are the White Sox willing to pony up $25MM (including tax) to sign him?

QUOTE (SouthWallace @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 06:44 PM) Found this interesting: CST_soxvan: Willy Garcia, a RF by trade, starting in CF for Charlotte. "We’ll see what he’s capable of doing out there as a possibility,'' Hahn said. https://twitter.com/cst_soxvan/status/854479521545945089 It's almost like Hahn listened to me. I was semi-ridiculed for proposing this very thing yesterday afternoon...

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 12:39 PM) Seriously. I do not want to see an OF defense that has Melky in LF, Willy in CF and Avi in RF. The three stooges. I guess it depends on what you feel is more important. For me, I'd rather have May's defense in CF than Willy's bat. Willy is the better hitter but May is the better defender. I found it intriguing that Garcia's Range Factor in CF two years ago was similar to May's Range Factor in CF last year. Maybe Willy has lost a step in the past two years? Would seem odd though for someone that's only 24. Either way, I don't see May as a great defender. If they want all defense and no offense, Engel is a better option than May.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 12:23 PM) How is Willy capable of playing CF? His lack of speed won't play well in CF and the scouting reports seem to say Willy is a corner OF. I wouldn't count on seeing Willy in CF. Played it quite a bit two years ago. Not saying he's going to be a plus defender out there but if he's even not awful his bat appears to play better than any of the other current options.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) Because he has a better bat than than Leury (2017 SSS be damned) and May. I was all for giving May a shot at CF, so I'm not mad about the move or anything. But its obvious he has no business in the big leagues, and probably never will. I'm not sure Bourjos has a better bat than Garcia at this point in their careers. Garcia put up decent offensive numbers in AAA over the last two seasons while Bourjos has been well below average offensively since he left LAA in 2013. I'd give Garcia a slight advantage due to his trend line seemingly pointing up while Bourjos' is pointed down. Given that Garcia is also 4 years younger I don't see this trend reversing itself any time soon. Either way, I believe they should start working the other Garcia (Willy) in CF in AAA because his bat represents the biggest upside of anyone currently in AA or AAA that is capable of playing CF.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) That would be great, but I would even take Robertson for Candelario. I just hope we're past the lowball Pedro Severino scenarios. I'm hoping the Cardinals get back in the wild card hunt. They have bullpen issues and I would love to see a Robertson for Kelly trade. I'd think this is something the Cardinals would definitely consider too if they are in the playoff race come July.