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Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to ChiSox_Sonix's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 01:46 PM) Im not saying its not impressive to shut him down, Im saying its easier to shut him down when you know they cant pass. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule. yea and the bears would be super bowl contenders if they had peyton manning, whats your point? I'm just saying that even if you know the Vikings have no passing game it is still VERY tough to shut down AP. Heck, all of last year everyone knew the Vikes had no passing game and he still ran for over 1300 yards while missing 2 games due to injury and he did it as a ROOKIE. -
Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to ChiSox_Sonix's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 9, 2008 -> 04:41 AM) Its easier to shut down AP when they cant pass the ball to save your life and have a lead. Also, Minnys pass defense has actually gotten worse. don't tell that to the bears who gave up 224 rushing yards to AP in a game last year that tavaris threw for only 136 yards while completing 9 of 23 passes (i.e. no passing game). -
Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to ChiSox_Sonix's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (DrunkBomber @ Sep 8, 2008 -> 08:48 PM) GB looked solid but Jackson gift wrapped that game. He would be third string on the Bears, and thats saying something. yea but the pack shut down AP in the second half (10 for 30 yards), gotta give them credit there because that's no easy task -
Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to ChiSox_Sonix's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2008 -> 08:38 PM) People are talking Super Bowl for the Vikings, but Tarvaris Jackson still sucks. I agree that Jackson sucks but a team can get to the Super Bowl with a crappy QB if they have a great defense (which I am not completely convinced the Vikings do) and running game (obviously their running game is ridiculous). I think they are easily a 10 win team if their passing defense steps up. Also, I think the Pack is a 11 or 12 win team if Rodgers plays even close to how he played today for the rest of the year. So if the Bears win 8 or more games, that's a very solid division (aside from the dismal Lions who will be lucky to win 5 games) -
Official 2008-2009 NFL Thread
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to ChiSox_Sonix's topic in A and J's Olde Tyme Sports Pub
QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 8, 2008 -> 08:13 PM) How's the conference overrated? Nobody really thinks highly of it. Or do you mean the teams expected to contend (Vikings, Packers) themselves are overrated? Cuz there, I'd agree. I disagree, I think it is one of the most underrated with the bears and vikings improved and green bay being still a 10-12 win team. I think it should be a very competitive division and interesting til the end of the season. -
Your first place Chicago White Sox!
JUSTgottaBELIEVE replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (alexgtp @ Aug 5, 2008 -> 02:17 AM) Im not sure if anyone had a chance to catch the game. EPIC Failure. As predicted by some of the Soxtalk Nostradamuses on here the twins Roadtrip is off to a good start. 10 Runs given up in the 7th inning. Gardy used 3 releivers in 1 inning. Hopefully he wore down the bullpen for the remainder of the Seattle trip. GS by Ibanez to start of the 7th. Bloop hits.. Mauer's missed tag on a play at the plate. Punto's errant throw from SS to a play at 1st which ends up in the dugout Here are the highlights for your enjoyment.. http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200...36&c_id=sea SOX tied for first!! WOOHOO!! what a beautiful thing -
QUOTE (Cubano @ Jul 6, 2008 -> 04:16 PM) I do not why Guillen has Anderson second against a lefty and Alexei 8th or 9th. yea no kidding, that is simply perplexing
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Now we all know Alexei is 10x the defender Soriano is but let's take a look at the offensive potential from this kid. Can he be a consistent .280 avg / 30 hr / 90 RBI a year kind of guy? Soriano in his first full season in the majors at age 25 put up the following numbers: SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS 2001 NYY 158 574 77 154 34 3 18 73 29 125 43 14 .268 .304 .432 .736 Now let's compare that to what Alexei has done to start the 2008 season at age 26: SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Season 62 201 26 60 12 0 7 27 7 25 3 3 .299 .322 .463 .785 Which projects to: SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Projected 137 444 57 133 27 0 15 60 15 55 7 7 .299 .322 .463 .785 Now a couple of things to point out here. One, the power numbers are VERY similar between the two as suggested by the slugging %. Two, Alexei strikes out FAR less, which in turn should help him exceed soriano's batting average due to more contact. Third, Soriano was a much bigger basestealing threat when he first came up but I think Alexei is fully capable of stealing 15-20 bases a year as well. Now that you have seen what these two are capable of in their first year (or in Alexei's case half way through the first year), and yes they have very similar numbers, the question is can Alexei make that big step in his second season in MLB? In his second season, Soriano hit 39 hr and drove in 102 runs with an .879 OPS. Now I think it would be unreasonable for Alexei to achieve those numbers (although possible) but more likely that he hits 20-25 hr with 80 RBI (depending where he's hitting in the batting order) and .850 OPS. Either way you look at it, not bad for a guy the Sox picked up for 4 yr / $4.75 mil (I think my source is correct). So what do you guys think? Potential like Alfonso Soriano or more like a Soriano-lite?
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QUOTE (Shadows @ Jul 6, 2008 -> 12:09 AM) ARam has gotten ridiculously better each month so far, his low OBP is mainly due to April and May March/April (29 ABs): .138 AVG .138 OBP 0 HR 2 RBI 0 BB 3 K May (61 ABs): .295 AVG .313 OBP 2 HR 5 RBI 1 BB 9 K June (93 ABs): .355 AVG .381 OBP 3 HR 17 RBI 4 BB 9 K July (14 ABs): .357 AVG .375 OBP 2 HR 3 RBI 1 BB 1 K I hope we do not see Uribe out there unless someone desperately needs a rest damn those are sick stats in June and July
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QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 23, 2008 -> 09:45 AM) Whatever, in 2 weeks they'll win 5 games in a row and we'll all be happy. This team and the people of this board are so Bi-Polar its ridiculous.... bottom line is unless this team can find some form of consistency they aren't going anywhere. even if they somehow survive the regular season you cant win 5 in a row and then lose 4 in a row in the playoffs if you want to win the world series.
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 22, 2008 -> 07:42 PM) Simple, whomever is in first place is technically in control of the division and will be until someone else takes over and at that point, that new time is in control of the division. the white sox are in anything but control right now. i wouldnt be surprised if we are in control of 4th place by the end of july and that is definitely realistic
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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 22, 2008 -> 07:38 PM) Do some of you guys listen to yourselves. The team is obviously not clicking, but last I checked they are above .500 and still in control of the division. That clearly won't last if they keep playing like they have, but they haven't gotten to this point of the season on accident. geez, i wouldnt say we are in control of the division, only 1.5 games up on the twins after tonight
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think about this, the sox expected win-loss sits at 46-27 right now. this statistic is primarily derived from run differential. why do you think we are 5 games worse than expected? it has to be attributed to the inconsistent offense. we really need more pure hitters. OPS, slugging, etc. are all great stats but we need guys that can consistently hit for average and get HITS. i think that is the biggest flaw on this team. we don't see any consistency from our hitters. god, what i would do for a hitter like mauer. just an absolute hitting machine, not for power but just a solid line drive hitter, gotta love those kind of guys. are there any out there available before the trading deadline? about the best fit i could see for this team (at a reasonable price) would be a randy winn. hit .300 last year and is hitting .303 this year. would be a very nice 4th outfielder and a guy you can plug into CF if you need to as well
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i love it! -14 degrees with the wind chill at lambeau for kickoff, let's see some football! GO PACK GO
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QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 12, 2008 -> 06:14 PM) Over 200 yards rushing for Grant - if anything, he buried those early fumbles in Grant's Tomb. This has been a great game to watch! yea i have to say i was awfully worried after they went down 14-0 5 minutes in, but the seahawks defense could not stop the packers offense all day. they absolutely picked yardage at will both in the air and on the ground. now lets go giants! and we get the NFC championship in lambeau
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haha! i love it! great comeback by grant and the pack! 169 yards and 3 TDs, go ahead and blow up ryan grant you're the man
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make that 91 rushing yards and 2 TD's in the first half nice comeback by the rook
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what a tough kid! two fumbles on his first three touches and then he rolls up close to 100 yards in the first half. what a stud
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QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Sep 23, 2007 -> 10:00 PM) Seattle made the playoffs last year. But there was a few year stretch where the Super Bowl loser missed the playoffs. yea well 8-8 and getting knocked out in the first round in the NFC is pretty awful
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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 23, 2007 -> 09:58 PM) I'm not ready to worry about it yet, but isn't there a history of Super Bowl losers not making the postseason during the following year? thats what im referring to...
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the NFC North looks like the packers division to lose...bears are experiencing the "Super Bowl loser" jinx
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QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Sep 23, 2007 -> 04:00 PM) That defense was f***ing horrible. The corneback played it like crap, and the safety took the worst angle possible. GB is decent, which is probably good enough in the NFC, but I'm still not that worried. Their defense is good but not as good as the Bears', and over the long haul I can't see their offense putting up a large amount of points. if the bears offense doesn't get it going, the packers are going to beat them in 2 weeks. green bay's offense may not be great but its definitely average to above-average which will be good enough to score at least 10 points on the bears and probably more if rex is turning the ball over. i'm not so sure i can say the same about the bears offense as far as the bears scoring 10+ points on a good packers D.
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QUOTE(The Critic @ Sep 10, 2007 -> 07:45 AM) Still listed as TBD on whitesox.com. i wonder whats taking them so long to determine it
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anyone know what the start time for the sat. 9/29 game is? it says TBD but i thought i heard someone say it got moved to 7:05? can anybody please help me because i cant make it if its the good old 1:05 start
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QUOTE(RME JICO @ Aug 12, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) 36-9 to finish with 90 wins. /thread well really i think it will only take 88 wins to win this now very very mediocre division either way 34-11 = done and yes... /thread