JUSTgottaBELIEVE

They sure aren’t starting the season like there’s one and has anyone from the organization said there’s a limit? I’m just saying, their actions so far this season certainly don’t point to a limit and if he’s still throwing the ball well why impose one? He hardly threw any innings the past 5 years and that didn’t keep him healthy.

He’s about to start his third game of the season in two days which means he will have started 3 of the Sox first 9 games. Does it look like they have an innings limit on him, man?

I honestly don’t know how many innings crochet is going to throw but I have yet to see anyone affiliated with the Sox indicate he’s on a limit have you? Wilson will absolutely be closing games for the Sox if they actually have a lead to close. Who else is going to close? No way you can put Kopech in that role after his control issues yet again to start this season. What have you seen from Fedde to indicate he will crash and burn? He’s looked good to me. A solid #3/4 type starter. At just $7.5M/year that has a lot of value to a contending team in July especially with the way top starting pitchers are dropping like flies early in this season.

Who said crochet is on an innings limit? I’ve only heard people talking about that here. Wilson will absolutely get a prospect like Mena if he keeps this up. Relievers with good stuff and proven MLB success with multiple years of cheap control are very valuable in July. Fedde is TBD but I like what I’ve seen so far.

Nah. If Crochet, Wilson, Fedde keep pitching like this and the Sox decide to trade them in a few months, they’ll get a very nice haul of prospects in return.

^and for the reasons above, I was advocating for holding onto Cease until July. I really felt he would have had 2022-like numbers pitching with this defense behind him, compared to that train wreck of a defense last season.

Defensively yes. And honestly, it’s shown on the pitching/defense side as the team carries a 4.13 ERA thru 7 games (compared to 4.87 last season) and only has 2 errors thru 7 games (lowest in MLB). I don’t think anyone was arguing those guys would hit, at least I hope they weren’t arguing that.

It’s clear to me he’s this team’s best reliever. Could get a very nice return for him in a July trade. Still has many years of cheap control.

Fedde certainly appears to be the real deal. They don’t have any big names but this starting rotation is better than what we saw last year (assuming Clevinger is good again).

Torres and Santander feel like Sox type FA signings. I assume they’ll be in play for both and likely only land Santander.

I dunno. He looks like a serviceable 5th starter to me. Certainly better than Flexen.

Exactly why I think there’s more to the story here. Wonder if it will come out eventually.

Is that code for something else though? Putting two and two together kind of feels like it.

What was the deal with Jose? Was he injured or were there off the field personal issues occurring? He was optioned to AAA a month ago and had yet to appear in a AAA game this season. Seems like there’s more to this story.

Has this been finalized yet? What’s the holdup? Sox are going to need a 5th starter soon you’d think lol

Royals blow it again this time in the 9th. Will Smith is garbage.

Royals about to take 2/3 in Baltimore and probably should have won the first game too. Perhaps 90+ wins this season wasn’t the lock our orioles’ friends thought it was.

Lorenzen got $4.5M guaranteed. Both he and Clevinger have proved more in mlb than Crochet. The reality is crochet is another TJS away from not getting a meaningful FA contract after his arb years. Even giving him $20M guaranteed is risky at this point until he proves he can stay healthy and pitch more than 50 innings in a season. I agree he has a ton of potential but so did Michael Kopech and Eloy Jimenez.

Well, that hasn’t exactly worked either - see Benintendi, Keuchel, Grandal, etc.

And Mike Clevinger only got $3M guaranteed so what’s your point?

Define considerable. You don’t think close to $20M to buy out this year and next two arb years plus two years of FA is close? Crochet would guarantee financial security for life (which I would think is a priority for someone like him given his injury history) and if he’s still healthy and performing well thru that extension he’s just 29 years old when he hits the open market.

Think he would take something similar to the Bunmer extension? https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-lock-up-aaron-bummer-with-record-five-year-extension/381642/?amp=1

I think Cease is a low level ace by today’s standards and much of that is tied to his durability. Crochet has the stuff to be a high level ace (top 5 mlb SP) but he still has a lot to prove from a durability perspective. The guy has a career 2.51 ERA in MLB so he has no trouble getting mlb hitters out but he has yet to throw 100 total innings and this is his 5th season in mlb. If he can stay healthy, the sky is the limit because he’s got stuff equivalent or better than peak degrom when he’s throwing strikes.

Moncada is so damn smooth at 3b. If only he could put up a consistent .800 OPS he’d be a monster

Terrific outing Garrett!