JUSTgottaBELIEVE

Why will it prevent them from getting close to that? Are both Eloy and Robert expected to miss the playoffs? What’s your basis for saying the Sox are “in trouble?” I’ve provided betting odds and fangraphs metrics to support my argument that the Sox are STILL one of the best teams in the league. What have you given besides a hunch and a lazy line of because they haven’t been good in the past? If you paid any attention to the team this season or last you would recognize this team is different than past teams. Sorry but I’m not the dense one here.

Dylan Cease and his sub 3 ERA is the Sox #5 starter and Sox fans think they’re toast now that they lost Robert. ?

Yes, the goal is to win the division and then take your chances in the playoffs with a loaded squad. Are you suggesting neither Eloy or Robert will be back by October? And by the way, the Sox have the second highest odds of winning the pennant behind the Yankees (still). If “they’re in trouble” so are 13 other AL teams.

You have yet to explain why “we are in trouble.” Still the best team in the AL Central, even without Eloy and Robert.

No interest in acquiring a corner OF like Gallo in exchange for (good) prospects, especially one that will be outhit by Andrew Vaughn as early as this season. Need someone that can play a solid CF or else you might as well run Engel and Hamilton out there. At least you’ll get plus defense from those two.

I have zero interest in Gallo, especially when you consider the price (I’m assuming several good prospects, not a bag of balls like the Mazara trade).

Still a 1-2 WAR/year guy. That has some value even though he is overpaid by the Cubs.

Lol. I was thinking more along the lines of Luis Gonzalez. One in the same I suppose.

What do you think Heyward would cost in terms of prospects if the Cubs eat half his salary? I’m thinking the return would be minimal, similar to the Mazara trade. To me, this is the best compromise and buys you time until the big dogs return. Knock on wood, Heyward has stayed very healthy through most of his career so, even though he’s unspectacular, he’s reliable at least.

Oh yea, I’d need the Cubs to eat about half his remaining salary. Where the Cubs are headed, I’m sure they wouldn’t mind doing that.

I think there’s room on the roster for both even when everyone is healthy. Of course, I’d ask the Cubs to eat at least half of his remaining salary. Something like 3/$30M as the Sox responsibility for his remaining contract seems reasonable. Decent chance Eaton is gone after this season anyways. Heyward can serve as a bridge to the Cubans.

I’ve been beating the Heyward drum since the offseason. All it costs is money and a non-prospect to acquire him. He can play all three OF positions and he hits righties decently well. Even if all the outfielders were healthy, he could still be used as a late inning defensive sub and possibly as a starter over Eaton depending on the matchup.

Stoney nailed it back in January. https://mobile.twitter.com/stevestone/status/1355691966034370564

Actually, you’re wrong. Reading through that thread, most posters thought it was a nice low risk high reward signing and better than other SP options like Q, Richards, and Hamels. Have you given the front office props for the signing?

Nah, I spent 5 minutes reviewing the Rodon signing thread last night. Your initial reaction to the signing was “this is depressing” followed by those couple other nuggets. Like I said, you’ve got it all figured out. Haha

Lol. I only point out positives? Tell that to Chisox59. For a guy that really wanted to sign Cole Hamels last winter (LOL) and believed Kopech wouldn’t start this year and we “couldn’t expect much from him this season” anyway, you sure seem to have it all figured out!

I agree with everything you say here. But it’s not what RR was arguing. I said the Sox are still the division favorite and he replied with a sarcastic “based on what”? If he were the GM he would have signed Paxton, Q, Pederson, And god only knows who else to really solidify the roster. I wonder what his thoughts were of the Rodon signing?

You have no idea what you’re taking about. See, the difference between you and me is that I’m objective. While you paint everything in a negative light (have you ever posted anything positive?), I point out the positives (this team is still loaded for several seasons regardless of what you think) and the negatives (Grandal bust signing, not extending McCann, missing on Harper). You think you’re a “real” fan because you’re critical of the organization at every step? In fact, you’re the furthest thing from a real fan with your constant negativity even when the team’s outlook has improved dramatically.

Why is that?

Why do you continue bringing this up? It’s 2021. A lot can happen over the next few years.

RR has all but said the Sox are done and “I told you so” before the season started, apparently, because they didn’t spend enough money last offseason on shoring up the roster. But I’m still not sure what he’s told us. He certainly hasn’t told us who he thinks will win the division now that the Sox are done. He thinks very highly of the Twins and Indians this year I guess.

Nope. All you do is whine and complain. It’s that simple really.

I’d move Vaughn and Grandal ahead of Eaton but otherwise works for me. Still the best offense in the division even without two studs.

You have no point. All you do is whine and complain.

You don’t think the White Sox will win the division but you aren’t willing to put yourself out there to say who will. Regarding the Sox lack of free agent spending, the free agents that they signed last offseason have fared better than 99% of the players posters on this site wanted to sign. Oh gosh, I remember the outrage when Joc Pederson signed with the Cubs! The “perfect” fit for the White Sox lol