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Matsui WANTS to play the outfield and will go to a team that gives him that chance (if one does). I saw where Oakland could be a sleeper for him.

Do we have the pieces to even make this deal? In talks with LA, they want Billingsley (among others) and in talks with the Yankees it was Hughes/Joba and others. Do we have ANYONE in this entire organization other than Peavy with the stuff that Chad Billingley has? And that's just PART of what the Jays want. I see absolutely nothing here.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 10:09 PM) With the Sox acquisitions as of late, if they get Putz, and if they can all turn the clock back to 2006 or 2007, the Sox should have no problem with the AL Central. These moves definately look like a 'lets go for it' now move. I can't see anyone beating the Yankees if they add Halladay or Lackey to an already lethal team, but who knows...gotta get there first.

Has Putz been injury prone his entire career or just last year? I don't know much about his history, but he does have good stuff.

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:43 PM) I dont see what the problem is? Its not like we are signing this guy to a 7 year deal or anything. This would be a 1 or 2 year deal if anything for a productive hitter at a fairly good price. I'm not sure i see a down side. I will admit, if he's not in LF there may not be a downside.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:38 PM) Fields was young and athletic, you want him back starting for us? He would possibly be the worst starting third baseman in baseball. I prefer good players who are athletic, but those guys are hard to acquire and are rare. Just because one isn't excited about obtaining aging, injury proned, poor defensive players does not mean they want to put players out there who are simply not Major League talent. Just because I don't see a Jay Bruce (or whoever) ready to be pluked by the Sox doesn't mean I'm going to be excited about these guys Williams is bringing in whose best days are clearly behind them. I know his thinking (I think) ... the AL Central sucks and this probably isn't the time to go into a youth movement given that factor and the fact we do have a great starting rotation. Still am not excited about the geezer patrol.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:37 PM) That's kind of the whole point behind the Rios acquisition. If he reaches his career norms at the plate and in the field in 2010 he'll fit your description exactly. And like every other player who fits that description he did not come cheap. I agree and I absolutely loved getting Rios...though his performance down the stretch last year was abysmal. I think the guy still has tremendous upside and am holding out hope for him.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:28 PM) Unless you're willing to be real bad or sport a giant payroll you really can't do that in one offseason. True True, but Williams should have seen this all coming. We had numerous chances to turn our own aging vets into young talent, but waited until the shelf life was used up at which point Williams shops said players and gets bad offers. That of course is a dead horse thats been beaten to death here, but it's clear the Sox have no position players ready to fill in at OF, we really don't have many top prospects to turn around for a high ceiling players, so...this is what we're doing, adding players like Jones and Matsui...I guess it's better than Lillibridge out there.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:29 PM) Who is young, good, can play defense well, and isnt impossible to obtain? Im listening... Well I was hoping the GM would figure that out. Because we can't find a Matt Holiday to put into our lineup we choose instead to get older, slower, worse defensively? Just not excited about players whose prime was 5 years ago.

I'd take it. Love Quentin's ability, but he's the Marty Havlat of MLB in that he can't stay healthy.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 04:25 PM) Who else is available that can give Matsui type numbers at DH>? We need offense bad Can Harold Baines still hit? Hell, I don't know...I thought we were going to get younger, more athletic, faster, less injury proned, better defensively. Granted if Matsui can give you 500ABs, he should be a productive hitter, and our starting rotation is definately ready to compete for post-season, even if the rest of the team isn't.

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Dec 8, 2009 -> 12:25 AM) Probably the best ever. Isn't that what was said about the 1984 Sox staff, when we added an aging but still talented Tom Seaver to the rotation of Hoyt, Dotson, Bannister?

Can this guy play in the OF anymore? What is the fixartion with aging veterans? I guess given the ALC is a division that is rebuilding, Williams thinks he can try to sneak another division title out of it before these players go down to the Social Security Administration and apply for their benefits.

I love the idea of Ellsbury (finally someone who can run, hit, play some defense)...but am NOT excited about moving Alexei.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 30, 2009 -> 12:19 PM) The Sox can and should do better. really. it seems too many names brought up are washed up vets, 'big names', or guys who just are not very good (in Cust's case, downright awful defensively).

Is the goal to have the oldest team in the history of baseball?

Yea little risk, some reward potential, but I am just not that excited about signing guys whose prime was 5 years ago. That said it is not necessarily a 'bad' signing either given the low price. Just not excited, that's all.

If Flowers actually does project as a Catcher at the Major League level, we'd be fools to deal him. However, if he looks more like a DH/1B candidate, I'd make him available to help the team make a run next year.

A lot of Everly Brothers fans in here.

QUOTE (rockren @ Nov 9, 2009 -> 03:55 PM) I'm really excited to see Teahan everyday at 3B for us next year. Not me. He's a below average defender and doesn't hit for the position. Teahen is what he is...an ordinary baseball player. That's no knock on him, he's accomplished far more than I have, but I don't see his addition as a major chunk of championship armor.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 20, 2009 -> 04:55 PM) Poor effort from EVERYONE, but Freddy tonight. I’m going to take a lot of flak for this, but Chris Getz does absolutely nothing for me. I admire his tenacity, and his speed on the bases, but Chris Getz only hits singles. SOFT SINGLES. There's never really any alternative for him. He can work a double in the gap, but he doesn't rely on anything other then speed to get him their. He had no extra-base power, rarely gets anything behind his hits, he doesn’t walk nearly enough to have a decent OPB, and his defense is suspect. He’s wonderfully fundamentally sound, but he is not a long-term option at 2b. And that is why I won’t be disappointed if Nix gets the majority of playing time, and CJ Retherford gets an invite to spring training next year. A completely misguided directive of anger. Chris Getz is a rookie baseball player and has faired quite well in his first year while all those established power hitting guys have absolutely screwed the pooch. He gives this team the little bit of speed it has, he's NOT playing a corner position which means he doesn't necessarily need to be a slugger like Mike Schmidt. He he has excellent bat control, an understanding of the strike zone, speed and is a good fit on this team. But let's complain about a "ROLE PLAYER" when the established (and very likely washed up) players on this team are the absolute reason the White sox are not playing post-season this year. The pitching was clearly good enough.

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Sep 14, 2009 -> 05:52 PM) Very much my thoughts exactly. I remember getting War and Pain and also Rrrrooooooaaaarrrr due to raves from Xavier Russel in Kerrang! magazine. I couldn't understand what he liked about them. Then I heard Forgotten In Space on a comp. cassette I had and was instantly blown away. Keep in mind, there are some fans and reviewers of the underground metal scene that LOVE the seminal works of bands...in other words, the noisier it is, the more frantic, the sloppier it is, the more some people like it. So many of that scene hated when bands GOT BETTER. Personally, I love to see bands get better. Sodom is another band like this...an absolutely cacaphonous racket on their early works, but then they do an absolute thrash masterpiece (Agent Orange) a few years later. As far as Voivod, "War and Pain" was bad; nearly unlistenable. RRROOOAAARRR showed improvement (Korgul and Ripping Headaches were decent efforts), but these first two albums were just marred by limited musical vocabulary and a slight reliance on hardcore punk at this point...I mean songs like "Suck My Bone" and "Eff Off and Die" fit where in a conceptual band such as this? They dont. But what I loved so much about this band was they went from a very remedial below average hardcore band to an amazingly fresh and innovative progressive thrash band who had become a super-talented band in the span of just a couple years. The music became fuller, tighter, and far more complicated. The concepts of the band had come into focus and the dynamic music just brought that more to light.

Well, Im one of the two who picked Rubber Soul. John easily my favorite

QUOTE (Kid Gleason @ Sep 4, 2009 -> 07:22 PM) kwolf, great album as your avatar, by the way. My personal fave Vod release. Damn right. It's amazing how much better they got between their first album War and Pain, and Killing Technology (third album). The level of development as players, writers, a band as a whole was just mind-blowing. Many of the bands of that genre (although I don't know if VoiVod were in a genre, they were just...well …VoiVod) were like that...at first could barely play their instruments and then seemed to become virtuosos within 2 or 3 records. They always had great ideas, but musically couldn’t pull them off until Killing Technology.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 14, 2009 -> 12:57 PM) If Lacher is out, then isn't it really worth the gamble? Absolutely. The point of my comment wasn't to say "not sign Derrick", but rather, tempering any enthusiasm that may exist.