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    Heyman: Sox interested in someone on some team. Nightengale: *nods*

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    The Sox could learn from this and spend more in the off-season for bench depth and bullpen depth. Great to learn “ what could happen” I realize that we have been decimated and little to no team can compete like that but we can spend more even another 15 million in the off-season could provide more or better depth. Hope they get some help. It would show the current group that management believes in This team to invest. 

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    Rays @ Sox, 6/14 7:10 ct

    in 2021 Season in Review

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    I am not going to b**** about the lineup because the last two lineups everyone was falling over themselves saying Tony was nuts and the games we’re over before it started , only to have it work out. I do have a question to the group kind of related. Does the bench coach do anything? I mean does he make a suggestion , maybe talk things over with Tony, bench coaches used to be strong and sitting right next to the manager providing input. I think ours is cairo, you just never hear he is even there. 

    Will Hahn be more active this deadline?

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 hours ago, FriendlyNorthsider said:

    The Sox window 2021-2024 IMO as the core becomes more expensive or is leaving in 2024. There isnt a single minor leaguer at this point that I wouldn't be okay trading if it made sense for the big league club. None of the minor leaguers are, at this point, top 100 guys. Jose Rodriguez is probably the best Sox prospect at this point (beyond the Cubans and maybe Kelley), and he isnt untouchable. 

    The Sox have two Cy young candidates entering free-agency next year, making this year a good year to push some more chips in. Until we see the Sox play some more quality competition, I think we wont fully understand what their needs are until they play teams that are better than DET, BAL, KC, etc.. If they run through Tampa Bay and the Astros, then maybe you're right and there is no reason to mortgage any part of the future. But I worry that at some point, theyre going to need another impact bat and another impact arm in the pen as insurance for a Crotchet injury or having to use Kopech as an opener due to injuries. 

    After the deadline the Sox have a run of 3 @ CHC, 3 @MIN, 3 v NYY, 3 v OAK, 3 @TB, 4 @ TOR, and 3 v CHC. I'd rather be over-prepared for the test than under prepared.The Sox are by far the best team in the AL Central and personally, I think they'll run away with it. I'm more worried about an ALCS against NYY where they made some big moves at the deadline. 

    That gives them time to fully assess what they need and how badly they need it. Winning a World Series is incredibly difficult and may require some sacrifice in the long term. I always go back to my Cubs, but there isnt a Cub fan out there that regrets Gleyber for Chapman. The Cubs had a glaring need at the deadline and made a deal that put them over the edge. Quintana for Cease + Eloy or even Wade Davis for Soler were different. Those trades were anticipatory and ended up backfiring. 

    The Dunning for Lynn trade was largely panned here as paying too much for a rental, but look at how its panning out. The Sox realized in 2020 that they needed top of the rotation pitching to win in the playoffs, and they struck gold.

    Anything the Sox can do to win in 2021-2024 should be on the table. If the Sox arent going to trade Kade Mclure or Jake frickin Burger to make them even stronger for the playoffs, then they should just trade Rodon and Lynn for a king's ransom and get back a couple of high school juniors like the Cubs did for Yu.

    Hahn has done a great job of turning Eaton, Quintana, Sale, and years of good draft picks into Giolito, Moncada, Kopech, Lynn, Vaughn, Eloy, Cease, Rodon, TA, Madrigal, etc. Give him the keys to put them over the top. Just my opinion

    Real nice assessment and well thought out . Hopefully the Sox get the message of spending more to keep the window open. They should make a run at signing lynn, Rodon will be gone so let’s use him up.

    Lynn 1, Hendriks 2, Rodon 7 in ESPN Cy Predictor

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    1 hour ago, ptatc said:

    Nolan Ryan was never the best pitcher. He struck out a lot of guys but also walked a lot. He was maybe the best thrower but never the best pitcher. 

    Your right with Ryan you always got a competitor but you didn’t know which Ryan would show up. The three best I have watched and followed were Bob Gibson , Tom  Seaver and Jim  Palmer. Anyway hope Lance gets it and the Sox pay up.  

    Classy moves by Carlos Rodon and Jerry Reinsdorf

    in Pale Hose Talk

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    2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

    Yet here you are passing absolutely no judgment on the forum you are posting on.

    And there is the rub because if a person disagrees with you you have an answer but you rebut and discredit the person to begin with. Typical you. That’s fine. I deal with differences daily . I am good with that. I just think he did a good thing and meant it and I think he always has meant it . Just because he has money doesn’t mean he has to spend it like soxtalk fans want him too. Go root for another team. Why are you hanging around such loser south side people . 

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