BearSox

Overall good performance by the team today.

Pods better do good...

Nunez w/ the hold!

• C Cole Armstrong, RHP Lance Broadway, C Donny Lucy, LHP Corwin Malone, INF Junior Spivey and LHP Wes Whisler were reassigned to minor-league camp; • INF Andy Gonzalez, INF Pedro Lopez, LHP Heath Phillips, LHP Paulino Reynoso and INF Casey Rogowski were optioned to Class AAA Charlotte; • RHP Dewon Day, RHP Oneli Perez and LHP Carlos Vasquez were optioned to Class AA Birmingham bold = players that have MLB potential to actually make an impact.

Not looking good...

Oxspring made Sweeney look foolish... but then again a lot of hitters would have looked foolish on the sequence of pitches... nasty.

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/artic...sp&c_id=cws Floyd was hitting 96 on fastball yesterday. Right now my thought is that he could have been overpitching, causing him to lose control.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 11:29 PM) Jim Rice Catfish Hunter we could go on for days So, when will the Sox sign Lew Ford? Ray Fosse Whimpy Paciorek Hawk himself.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 11:24 PM) The funny thing about mentioning grinders is that if we used our collective brains last year, we would have guaranteed that Erstad would be on the White Sox. What other players does Hawk gush over about their all-out hustle? carl yastrzemski

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 11:22 PM) How about a comic book depicting Eric Byrnes, Darin Erstad, Aaron Rowand etc. as super heroes? I mean, in these people's minds these players already have super human powers such as the ability to immediately turn any s***ty team into a winner just with their presence alone (despite their below average production) and how their play on the field actually transcends statistics. Would Mike Caruso be the super-villian?

Living Definition of a Pitcher-Grinder... Jamie Navarro. Others that can be defined as Grinders include: James Baldwin, Dan Wright, Todd Ritchie, Mike Sirotka, Jim Parque, Cal Eldred, Kelly Wunsch, Keith Foulke, Bob Howry, Josh Fogg, Kip Wells, Billy Koch, Estaban Loiaza, Sean Lowe, Bill Simas, Matt Ginter, Lorenzo Barcelo, Bartolo Colon, Rocky Biddle... basically anyone who pitched for the White Sox between the years 1998 - 2002/2003, the years where grinder-pitching made its biggest impact w/ the White Sox.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 09:20 PM) I want to face you again Papi. Also: all drug addicts suffer relapses. I stand by that. Can't just up and quit. When a drug addict decides to go cold turkey w/o any help. Yes, chances are they will relapse. But if they get the proper support and go to rehab, not necessarily.

I just realized this... but Ryan Bukvich has a realistic shot at making the team. 7 IP, 8 K's, 0 BB's, 2 ER, 8 Hs, 2.57 ERA That is probably best out of all the relievers.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:47 PM) Mark was for a couple of years, but that's opening a different can of worms. Why trade BA when we can't get s*** for him? We could probably get a good arm or two out of him... but you are saying only trade him for ace potential is just unrealistic. If we get Rowand and we could get a Tankersly, Petit, or another good pitcher for Anderson, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Does that mean I want Anderson gone if we do get Rowand? Heavens no. Anderson can provide good insurrance, can be involved in a package of a bigger trade, or if Rowand and Erstad don't work out, we'd have Anderson.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:43 PM) No he wasn't, and I don't think he is now... well, he was for a good portion of his career so far, at least

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:41 PM) I didn't mean that I expect him to have another relapse. I'm rooting for him not to, as I made clear, and I don't think he will. I was responding to the comment that, hey, he's had a lot of relapses by saying -- all drug addicts do. "I quit." Next day, you're lying on the floor with crack running through your system. Hamilton's a born-again Christian, so he did experience a rebirth, and I imagine that having kids now helps, too. Oh okay, I just misunderstood you... sorry about that.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) There's maybe 5 ace talents in baseball. The best you can hope for from Danks and Gio are #2-#4 talents. So. You expect to get one of those "5 ace potential" pitchers for Anderson? Right now there might only be 5 considered like Homer Bailey, but anyone can become an ace. Look at Buehrle... was he considered Ace potential 10 years ago?

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:28 PM) All drug addicts relapse over and over. That is very steriotypical of you. It is possibly that he had a rebirth, so to say.

Also, the best we could possibly do for Anderson is Tyler Tankersly, IMO. We are not going to get Volstad or Sinkibeli for Anderson.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 08:07 PM) I would hope Williams thinks more of Anderson than a bullpen arm. We have quite enough of those as it is. We're missing top of the rotation talent. Unless Anderson is commanding that from Florida, he shouldn't be traded there. ???????? John Danks and Gio Gonzalez, at least last time I checked, were considered top of the rotation talent. And there a couple more guys lower that have some good potential.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 12:09 PM) You are the docter!

If we could get a good/potential filled bullpen arm out of the Marlins like Renyal Pinto or Petit out of Anderson I'd probably do the trade, if we got Rowand from a package like Tracey and Rogo.

The Garcia trade has gotten annoying really fast. Garcia was a salary dump. The White Sox organization was very high on Gio and Floyd, and was not high on Garcia. Floyd can become decent and Gio could become a stud. And one could argue that Garcia lost it last year and his career will go downhill from now on. In 5 years this could become a real steal, or a big blunder by KW. It is just way too early to say the Sox blew this one. Did KW undervalue Freddy and could have possibly gotten more, probably. But this wasn't a terrible trade, from what anyone could tell. And it wasn't an obvious bad trade. A trade that you could tell would be bad right away would be something like Jon Garland for Julio Franco and a crappy 'spect. But the Garcia/Floyd and Gio trade just has too many ifs and buts in it right now for one to conclude it was a bad trade.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 06:11 PM) When is the last time a White Sox rookie starting pitcher made it an entire season on the major league roster? Danks is thought to be a little green by most baseball people. Floyd has just been a disaster. You can't take past history and automatically think it applies to every prospect we have.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Mar 13, 2007 -> 06:04 PM) If Philly is out of it (doubt it) or they still have six starters lying around, I could see the Sox making a move for Garcia in June. I doubt it. The organization seemed less then thrilled about his preformance last season and how he came into ST out of shape, and wanted no part of him anymore. Well, that is what it seemed to me.