idseer

Not criticizing your list, because this is just opinion, but how can you not have Pedro on there. If you look at how dominant he has been compared to the rest of the league its almost ridiculous. He has been a much better pitcher than both Schilling and Glavine and he has been better than Johnson or Maddux. not to mention ... how could there be a tossup between arod and larkin?????

in person (lifetime) i'd go with: 1b eddie murray 2b rod carew 3b mike schmidt ss alex rodriguez lf ted williams cf mickey mantle rf hank aaron c johnny bench p warren spahn

here's an all time team based on just one best season. using the actual positions they played. 1b - lou gehrig 1927 47-175- .373 2b - rogers hornsby 1922 42-152- .401 3b - eddie mathews 1953 47-135- .302 ss - alex rodriguez 2002 57-142- .300 lf - al simmons 1930 36-165- .381 cf - joe dimaggio 1937 46-167- .346 rf - hack wilson 1930 56-191 .356 c - johnny bench 1970 45-148- .293 p - walter johnson 1913 36-7- 1.14 the clostest battles were between: rf - hack wilson 1930 56-191 .356 rf - babe ruth 1921 59-171 .378 p - walter johnson 1913 36-7- 1.14 p - lefty grove 1931 31-4- 2.06 p - steve carlton 1972 27-10- 1.97 (on a losing team)

i also agree. collectively this has to be the worst fielding AND worse running sox team i've seen in my 48 years of being a fan. what are the odds they're both in the same year?

regards the injury ... i knew it was triceps. just had a little brain fart there. i don't think that changes the gist of what i said tho. as to the trest of your post ... i appreciate you taking the time to explain what you did. you understand that MOST of us have nothing else to go by other than the media. like it or not we all make opinions on available knowledge in all aspects of life. that's just the way it is. i will say that i wouldn't bet much on knowledge gained that way. nevertheless at a sox gab site such as this you discuss from these biases. otherwise no one talks except those like yourself who are 'inside'. i would add that even those 'in the know' don't always have the straight story ... just what they happen to be privy to. if you say thomas is a great guy then i cannot argue with you. but then maybe you're both jerks. i don't know you either. (the last was said with a smile and i am not suggesting it's true ... but you get my point). i still think there's something wrong with thomas' arrangement with jr (who i dispise as an owner). at the least it would seem to be a conflict of interest, and very naive of thomas to have. for a supposed intelligent person this doesn't seem like good business. perhaps you can explain why there are so many people who feel as i do! is FT just an unlucky soul that we all misunderstand? are all stars of his magnitude put through this wringer? i don't doubt your comments about KW are true but i still feel thomas has himself to blame for his plight. at least much of it. reaching back to an earlier comment i made, i did wanted to trade frank after 2000. but not because i don't like the guy. i felt he'd reached his absolute pinnacle in that season and the time was best to move him. we desperately needed pitching and i believe we could have scooped up a lot for him. he wasn't going anywhere but downhill after that going into his mid thirties. don't give me bonds or other examples of guys who got better after that. those are the big exceptions and thomas being a big man was very unlikely to follow suit. the percentages said move him then. keep in mind i do not have considerations for the actual persons. i am only concerned, in this context, with what's best for the team's future. hey ... maybe i'd feel different if i knew the man, i don't know.

of course there's no way to prove it was 'finalized'. it doesn't matter. you know it was and i know it was. why wouldn't i finalize it? who wouldn't? it was a stupid bet on your part (mostly the 20 stolen bases part because he'd never stolen 20 in his life) and i jumped at it. and you're right about there being 4 or 5 posts. the initial ones leading up to the last one which was the actual bet. why should i save the others? anyway, let's drop it. it's useless to carry on, obviously. i will say this. your spelling and grammer has improved greatly since you were dima. that's why i was never sure it was you. the mariah comment seemed to indicate it was but then you could have simply seen our conversations about her. have you been taking a spelling course? or on medication? (you were always in such a hurry in your typing)

pathetic. you really disappoint me dima. i thought you had more character than this.

for your edification DIMA, here was the agreed upon bet: Posted by: DimaAl88 (244 Msgs) 8:38AM PST, Nov 13, 2001 Thread [27]: Original Message It is obvious that me and you are operating in different modes of thinking when it comes to Jose. I look behind the stats, and you don;t. I want to propose a friendly bet of, say, $200 to be settled in Oct. 2002--should there be a season, of course. I bet you that Jose Valentin will put up the following offensive numbers or better, granted that he has at least 525 at-bats*. -.350 obp -25 hr -80 rbi -20 sb Ready to put some money where yor mouth is, idseer? You win if ANY of the four criteria are violated. *The deal is off if Jose is injured, traded, i.e unable to play...and don't forget to print this message out as proof should you take this bet. I expect the answer very soon. email is [email protected] 525 at bats or bet is off i answered and you know it. now you renege. tha fact is, dima, i wouldn't have asked for the money in fact. it was good enough knowing your hero jose wasn't all that. i hope everyone else here sees you for what you are tho. a quick mouth ... little substance.

what other name do i know you by? Wha? I recall you toying with me on the bet, changing 'no' to a 'yes' numerous times until I gave you 3 or 4 different deadlines all of which you missed...so what the f*** are you talking about, 2 years later I was me who "contacted" you, 'member? i thought it was you. and you're a weasel, just like i said. you make a bet, and when it's apparent you're going to lose you never show up again on the troll board. i still have the original post, deadbeat, and we had agreed on everything. kid yourself ... kid others ... don't kid me. i KNOW better.

Matrix Reloaded sucks man. Its incomplete. And really, the whole Matrix thing sucks. Why? Because Neo cant die. In any other movie, maybe its just an archetype, or common pattern, that the hero does die but take any other movie. The Rock, one of my favorites, for example. They dont die but John Mason and Stan Goospeed can die. Or better yet. Windtalkers (dont read the next sentence if you havent seen the movie). Joe Enders does die. But in the Matrix, no matter what happens, Neo cant die. It just cant happen. In the movies I mentioned, the protagonist can and sometimes does die. But not in the Matrix. And he can fly. Why the hell is he flying? Joe Enders cant fly! Stan Goodspeed doesnt look back in The Rock and see those crazy Marines chasin him and sail away singing "I believe I can fly!" It just doesnt happen. The flying is just so corny. And the fact that he cant die, takes all the suspense out of the movie. I like the whole machines control the hoax world and people are trying to escape idea, but just have a mortal freakin character, for cryin out loud! of course neo can die. weren't you paying attention? it's turned out the 'prophesy' was wrong. not to say he WILL die but there's no doubt he's not immortal. the flying is just an extrordinary manipulation of the matrix. remember, the matrix is just numbers. he can't fly in the 'real' world. (tho he did something intriguing near the end by stopping those mechanical multipods) and it was incomplete because it's the second in a series of 3 movies. just like starwars (the one where ford is stuck in corbomite (or whatever) at the end).

what other name do i know you by?

i made no remarks about hsc or steff as i can recall. btw, when do i get my $200 you weasel?

just who are you refering to here? yourself and ncorqbl? i don't think i've been any more disrespectful to ncorqbl than he (she)'s been to me. as for you. please don't make me laugh. you've earned no respect at all. maybe you should go back and look at all your replies to me when i'cve posted. tell me how respectful you've been. the reason i say thomas is stupid (one of the reasons) is continuing doing the same stupid foot-in-mouth trick over and over. so you see, his whining is bad enough. his not learning from the reactions to his whining is what i call STUPID!

you thinks wrongly. 'so says you' was all you deserve. as to "Show me where I said "latent homosexuality" is not a legitimate issue...However, it's woefully simplistic to think it's the only defining factor in what's generalized as 'homophobia'" what you said was ... "Nope, being "scared" of homos is akin to being scared of going to prison- fear of at once forceful and glorious anal violation...in addition to fear of liking it and being addicted to it, if you will." sounds to me like you were saying i was wrong. then you go on to actually include it as part of your definition. the fear of liking it. it looks like you're arguing just to argue. big surprise huh? the fact is it's generally considered the number one reason. i didn't say it was the one and ONLY reason. but your reason was really stupid. the fear is brought on by being afraid of going to prison and being forced! that's hilarious brandofan. i won't continue this dumb argument. the discussion is ft. let's keep it there.

like most people here, i base my opinions on what i read or hear (tv). and i have read on several occasions that FT is not so much interested in the teams success, but his own. i've seen for myself the times he's popped up on an 0-3 count because he feels HE wants to 'be the man'. your excuse for him not sliding is just that ... an excuse. he wasn't protecting an injured wrist. his wrist was healed! otherwise he's not out there. the previous wrist injury IS an excuse for not hitting ... but just a bulls*** reason for not sliding when a game is on the line. i also prefaced my comments concerning his intelligence saying from all i've seen and read of him. i have no first hand knowledge of his intelligence away from the ballgame. BUT! ... in that arena he has been STUPID! and he ran to jr for help? that's why he threatened to not show? that's the advice his good buddy jr gave him? excuse my guffaw! as you yourself said, you don't understand fans like me because you don't want to. who has the closed mind here? "If the franchise had been sold to me, I'd move it in a moment's notice." be careful what you wish for.