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QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 07:43 AM) Gotta disagree here. His arm is way below average for a RF. He occasionally got off some solid throws to third from left center that looked good, but if he is in RF, we will see a lot of first to third base running from the bad guys. He would be a very good LF, however, but then you have to find a CF who can hit a little bit, and that person is not now on the roster. So Eaton will probably stay in CF for the duration. His arm was so way below average that he was one of only 15 outfielders in MLB to have a throw that hit 100 mph. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-outfiel...-who-threw-100/

Only a dumb person would suggest Anderson would be the shortstop next year. It's simply absurd. End discussion.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 11, 2015 -> 12:30 PM) #InsidePitch's @JimBowden_ESPN fits for Desmond: #Mets, #Padres, #WhiteSox, sleeper #Athletics. Won't return to #Nationals, Turner at SS https://twitter.com/MLBNetworkRadio/status/...540270655066112 Sox aren't shelling out big money for a 5 year deal on a shortstop with Tim Anderson making his way toward MLB.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 07:36 PM) Michalczewski, Montas, and Danish 18 seasons of those guys for 2 seasons of Frazier. And when he leaves after 2017 maybe could work out a trade to get Michalczewski back.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 09:06 PM) Lol and there's a thread on a Hanely trade Is there one that suggests playing him in left field?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Nov 10, 2015 -> 03:30 PM) If they want Rasmus now, why didn't they want him last year when he was cheaper and w/o losing a draft pick? He's a decent defender, but strikes out too much, OBP too low, head case at times. None of those FA hitters excite me like Prices or Grienke or even Zimmerman would, were the Sox looking for pitching. I didn't say they want Rasmus now. As to why they didn't get him last year, I'll assume that they, like every other team in baseball based on the contracts they got, assumed Melky would be the better player. Again, I was just listing off some free agents who are younger.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Nov 9, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...hite-soxs-goals Sox looking for younger and cost controlled talent That isn't quite what Hahn said. There isn't a mention of cost. Hahn says, “I think ideally we’re going to be adding pieces, though, that are younger and more controllable for an extended period of time." He says "controllable" in reference to time, not cost. Jason Heyward is younger and the he'll be controllable for an extended period of time. Same with Upton, Rasmus, etc. Not saying we'll get one of those guys, just that Hahn doesn't mention cost.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 10:54 AM) JJ Hardy turned a .682 OPS into a 3 year deal pushing $40 million. Alexei was .642 this season, and still a way better defender. What? Hardy is an enormously better defender than Alexei.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 4, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) If they don't already have a gentleman's agreement in place to bring him back for a lower amount for like 2 years at $7M or so then this was simply a bad move by the Sox. We don't have anyone ready to step in and Tim Anderson is at least 1-2 years away from being ready They wouldn't make a gentleman's agreement to do that. They would just make an agreement to do that. They would have announced that agreed upon contract if they had one.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 06:32 PM) But people on this board are hard to please. I was getting fried on this board for saying Salvy Perez was an outstanding catcher for the Royals. Tyler Flowers was a better hitter than Perez in 2014. I'll type it again for some reason. Tyler Flowers was a better hitter than Perez in 2014. Perez was a bit better in 2015. Over the past 2 years they've been pretty comparably catcherly with their hitting.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) 21st in wRC+ amongst catchers with 300+ plate appearances. Dude is a bad hitter for the position too. Subpar starter with the bat. And the difference between him and the 6 or 8 guys ahead of him is not that much. Catchers suck at hitting across the league. He's considered a top 2 pitch framer in MLB this year. Because you don't have an easy way to quantify and contextualize that extremely important part of catching, you undervalue it. He helps the pitchers be better and more effective. He's an overall averagely valuable catcher.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 04:03 PM) The White Sox seem to be waiting until the last minute to announce what they are going to do with Alexei. Makes me think they either trying to get him to sign a lesser contract. It is at least worth a shot. It's clearly what they ought to do rather than just pick up the option. They managed to take 10% off Uribe's option salary in 2008.

QUOTE (Baron @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) Good...Flowers and Rick Hahn get to use the injury excuse for his poor batting again. An even better excuse is simply that he is a catcher.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:49 AM) Sure, it took KC from post draft 2006 until 2013 to build a winner. Why are you starting with 2006?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) Do the Royals get a 1st rounder if Gordon declines an option? No. They'll get one when he declines the qualifying offer if he goes on to sign elsewhere.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Nov 1, 2015 -> 09:39 PM) Until further notice they are. Back-to-back trips not only to the postseason, but to the World Series, no less, including now a World Series championship. That must have been some "Three Year Plan" they were on to accomplish all of that! More like a 15 year plan.

The Royals only signed Morales because they couldn't land Torii Hunter. They also signed Alex Rios. The Royals are geniuses.

Kansas City's "plan for success" was simply to suck for a decade and a half. The reason they're in the World Series and the extent to which we talk about them as a success is due to a handful of players. When you suck, you get really high draft picks. In the 15 years between 1999 and 2013 they had a top 9 draft pick 13 times. They had a top 5 draft pick 9 times. Looking at the 10 picks from 1999 through 2010 (the more recent picks' value not yet determined), 6 were total busts or rather insignificant. So they hit on 40% of their 1st round top 10 picks. Among that group of "busts", the most useful player is Luke Hochevar, a #1 overall pick who has amassed 2.8 bWAR in about 900 major league innings. Jake Petricka, by way of example, has amassed 3.4 bWAR in 144 major league innings. The picks that panned out for them were: Zack Greinke #6 in 2002. The 2009 AL Cy Young winner factors into this team because they were able to trade him to get Lorenzo Cain. Alex Gordon #2 in 2005 Mike Moustakas #2 in 2007 Eric Hosmer #3 in 2008 As you see, 3 of those are even top 3 picks. And those 4 players are the reason the Royals are so good. Lorenzo Cain, Alex Gordon, Mike Moustakas, Eric Hosmer. 16.7 fWAR this year. 4 guys who are young and cheap and hit and play defense. You just need to suck so bad you get a lot of top 3 picks. Anyone who wants to throw Sal Perez in here should note he was worth 1.6 WAR this year. Their starting pitching is nothing special at all. They have a great reliever in Wade Davis and a couple more good ones in Holland and Herrera, but neither of those guys were as good at keeping runs off the board as, say, Matt Albers. I really think this year is KC's last great hope. Gordon will be the first of those guys to leave after this season. They'll lose Zobrist and Cueto as well. I think they're a playoff team but not as good next year. And Cain, Hosmer, and Moustakas are all free agents after 2017. They won't trade those guys to restock with new young talent until their run has ended. It took them 15 years of sucking to wrangle the talent required to make this run, but I don't see how it can last very long.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 05:38 PM) Nick Hundley could be a really nice shrewd pick up. He is a very good defensive catcher who happened to hit .301 last year with 10 HR in the biggest pitcher's park in baseball. Did you just call Coors Field, the best hitter's park in the history of baseball, "the biggest pitcher's park in baseball"?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Oct 22, 2015 -> 05:31 AM) Yesterday on the Boers and Bernstein Show You lost me right here. Sports Radio meatheads need to fill infinity hours of air time.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Oct 22, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) OK so three straight years? 2012 was the last time I remember feeling good about what Ventura was doing. Ventura wasn't ever doing anything. The players do and don't do things. The manager doesn't matter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) And now we've also wasted two years of Robertson...and he's more likely to be declining his last two tears when we really need an 85%+ closing rate in 2017 and 18. Doesn't make much sense in terms of resource/payroll allocation when a younger position player would give you a higher return...as a well-paid closer will be a luxury next year, also preventing us from making additional adds via FA. Still not sure why we didn't allow the Yankees to take him back. Guess it would have reinforced now inept some of our moves worked out that we'd already have to cut bait in Year 1 of the contending window. Roberson I feel has pretty well maintained his value. He could be on the trade block at the deadline if the team is way out of it.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) Wasn't Victor Martinez arguably the best hitter in baseball the year before he his free agency? He certainly wasn't this year. And he certainly wasn't expected to be. And as a broken down old former catcher/DH he certainly doesn't offer any value in the field or on the base paths. Supply and demand. Every team in baseball who is trying to win can use Zobrist. Martinez could only go to AL teams with an opening at DH and a lot of money to spend. Tigers, White Sox, and I don't know who else.

QUOTE (BamaDoc @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 05:26 PM) Melky, with all his problems was a 1.4 WAR player or a -0.3 WAR player according to Fangraphs

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 12:31 PM) f*** Hanley. He's not an option. He would come cheaper than Zobrist or Murphy. I'm rather certain Murphy will get 4 years. I think Zobrist will as well because there is no draft pick compensation and every single team could use him. Victor Martinez got 4 years last year at 36 and he can play roughly zero positions.