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Differences: 1) All the attendant media hype surrounding one year of eye-popping numbers in the minors 2) 107 years and counting without a World Series title 3) Gary Scott/Kevin Orie/Bobby Hill/Brooks Kieschnick/Hee Sop Choi, etc. Long string of busts in the infield for the Cubs. Shawon Dunston never even quite lived up to the hype back in the mid 80's. 4) Kyle Schwarber=Babe Ruth (enough said)

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:59 PM) All I could think of during that game.... Seriously. Rodon? Awesome. Beck? Awesome. Barnum? Awesome. Trey? Awesome. Shuck? Awesome. Avi? Awesome. EVERYTHING/EVERYONE IS AWESOME!!!!! CUE LEGO'S SOUNDTRACK.

QUOTE (daggins @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:37 PM) Puig forever HEART Just because I couldn't resist... http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/11493214/v540...swing/?c_id=mlb Shout out to former 2005 Houston Astro IF/OF Jason Lane, throwing a hanger here that was absolutely rocked. And Lane, ironically, hit a homer of his own.

http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/10-most-pop...56910--mlb.html Not surprising to see Lester join the list. One would think Bryant and Soler aren't too far behind. Here's what looks to be most of the TOP 27 Adam Jones Andrew McCutchen Buster Posey Chase Utley Chris Davis Clayton Kershaw David Ortiz David Wright Derek Jeter Dustin Pedroia Felix Hernandez Freddie Freeman Giancarlo Stanton Joe Mauer Jose Abreu Jose Bautista Masahiro Tanaka Mike Trout Miguel Cabrera Paul Goldschmidt Robinson Cano Stephen Strasburg Troy Tulowitzki Yadier Molina Yasiel Puig Yu Darvish www.fanatics.com

There are huge falloffs after the Cubs at 5 and White Sox at 15 to the next tiers...Royals still trapped in the bottom 4 despite their World Series appearance. Tigers, Phillies (a TON of money), Dodgers, Blue Jays, D-Backs....losing money. Yankees only at +$8.1 million. Royals and Twins did pretty well financially.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:38 PM) Can I switch my vote to a Cuban rum? Only if you hit Sammy Sosa over the head with it. Oops, I think that was Puerto Rican rum.

9 k's in 11 outs Facing Royals' OD line-up with the exception of Salvador Perez Rodon only the fourth pitcher in ACC history to record 400 K's in a career (and he only pitched three seasons).

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 07:29 PM) I rounded up from $975 million... They seemed like a pretty affordable investment until you just did that. :-(

This is the Rodon we've been waiting for this spring... Maybe working with Austin is having a positive effect, muscle memory? 8 k's in 3 1/3 IP. Only two outs NOT by K. Jesus.

Rodon has picked it up. 96-97 MPH consistently in this one. Facing the AL pennant winner tends to bring out one's competitive side a bit.

Can someone send a PF or C Iowa's way...as "Eye Swipe/Gouge" Adam Woodbury and Dominique Uhl will be the only players for those positions, along with Ahmad Wagner (possibly), bruising freshman from Ohio. Thanks!!!

And insurance payments/workmen's comp (Nate Jones)....all the big ticket contracts like Danks (for sure), Sale, Quintana, Eaton, Cabrera, Robertson, Abreu, Ramirez, etc. Not sure about Samardzija.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 06:21 PM) ok, i found the site, the biz of baseball, it explained the breakdown of the tv deals, there are several heading in the total media deal. local tv/cable, regional tv/cable/ internet/, nationals tv/cable/internet. this total come to a substantial more than was org being listed. a poster wrote with the link http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...94552&st=45 now according to the valuation breakdown, forbe which is a great source of info, but is also limited to what is not part of the company, the company which is describe in and by mlb. on;y list what the sox owners discloses. there are sub-companies that does not disclose their books. the last time i had this discussion, i may have made some real great posters really mad at me, maybe b/c of the style i write or talk. i really mean no offense and i hope someone can prove me wrong. i don't mind a total biiitch slap every once in a while. peace That was me... and, yes, you're right, finding or placing the exact value of the Comcast deal is BEYOND tricky, because there are two entities that are separate (Bulls and Sox) with the same owner. So that's 40%, 20% to Cubs, 20% Blackhawks and 20% Comcast Company if I remember correctly..

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:07 PM) Not just down, down by $10 million over 2013. Team lost money in 2013 and had to cut $15 million from payroll and get an extra $25 million in TV money to get to where they were last year. If it weren't for that extra TV money, the White Sox would likely be cutting payroll this year. That's also where you have to factor in the loss of nearly every major sponsorship deal the team had from 2006-2011. Gold Coast Tickets, Bullpen Sports bar, Chevy Fundamentals deck (I guess it's XFINITY now), the Gibson's restaurant group platform they were running, 7-11 stores (7:11 game start time), Pontiac (eventually replaced by Comcast), etc., not being able to derive new revenue over the stadium name (US Cellular), etc. Part of it was the 2008 economic crisis catching up before the beginning of the 2010 season. The offers they were getting the last two years apparently were insulting or pennies on the dollar, bargain-basement prices, so they just decided to wait for more favorable conditions in terms of the team's competitiveness level.

Hasn't Conor been bothered/hampered by an assortment of foot problems this spring???

Wow....according to Balta's numbers, our ticket sales revenues have almost dipped by 45-50% over the last 3-4 seasons due to 1) The fall of nearly 25% from 27,000 to 21,000 per game 2) What would have to be a decrease in the average ticket (value) sold from Top 5-6 in the game to close to the $20-21 range (from all the way up around $38.65 per ticket). 36,511 was our average way back the year after the World Series title. Essentially, a 40% fall in attendance over the course of a decade, mixed in with ticket prices being slashed nearly in half. Not exactly a formula for success or profitability...luckily, tv/parking/concessions/favorable stadium lease deal have saved Reinsdorf's bacon. It's just astounding we can be a bottom 3 television ratings team (and you know Houston was the worst) with two superstars in Abreu and Sale. For a good part of last season, maybe the first four or four and 1/2 months, the White Sox were very competitive and entertaining, with the obvious exception of the bullpen/closing out games.

If you look at the first page from the other thread....you'd have to adjust for the ticket sales from back in 2010-11 cycle Roughly $65 million from local/regional tv rights, then $40 million from national media rights split/share (ESPN, TBS/TNT, Fox, etc.)....that's $110 million You'd have to adjust from that time when the average ticket price was closer to $40 (it's got to be $30ish now) and the attendance was roughly 27,000 per game....to what we did last year, 21,000. That would mean a drop down to the $60-70 million range (attendance/tickets alone, in isolation), compared to the $85 million or so 3-4 years ago. Essentially, the whole equation has been rebalanced again by that $25 million from the EXTRA $25 million attributable to MLB's NATIONAL tv contract/s. Of course, the White Sox have also lost an additional 5-6 major sponsors over that time...and I'm not 100% sure what's going on recently with the stadium name/US Cellular controversy.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) They want to keep hawkins in camp with Steverson because they have a great relationship, and they are rewarding him for his great play. That and with the Taylor surprise retirement, Danks finally gone and Campana blown knee ligament/release, the PT became available for both Thompson and Hawkins.

QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:34 AM) a great list, now to factor in the cost??? Depends on their individual situations, age, experience level. Right now, with the unprecedented Moncada deal, as well as Olivera/Rusney Castillo/Y. Tomas signings...the market has blown up so much that it wouldn't be prudent to go after these guys in an opening bidding process against the rest of MLB. We've been 2/3 in this whole thing, missing on Dayan and hitting it huge with Alexei and Jose Abreu. (Not to mention Jose Contreras when he came over from the Yankees, along with El Duque in 2005). If we were professional stockbrokers, getting 3 out of 4 "big decisions" right would be considered pretty darned amazing. That said, the White Sox should be closely monitoring Vladimir Gutierrez and Yadier Alvares. Those two pitchers, in particular.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) Soler. Gonna be a monster. I know that's exactly who Fathom's gonna pick. If Courtney Hawkins can just be Soler-Lite, we're going to be pretty fortunate after how badly things looked following the 2013 season after a quite promising 2012 start to his career.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:01 AM) I'd love a Cuban sandwich for lunch Don't watch the movie CHEF with Jon Favreau, John Leguizamo and Sofia Vergara, haha. That will make you even hungrier.

About as wrong an answer as the White Sox were on Dayan Viciedo, unfortunately.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) This is literally the most caulfield post ever. But obviously you'd want Puig. Puig is a great talent, obviously, but...having watched how professional Abreu is in comparison, I'd prefer someone like Chapman or Fernandez (assuming health) to the likes of Cespedes or Puig. They both tend to showboat too much, and aren't team-first players. Obviously, Moncada stands out the most amongst the younger players. Despaigne and Gourriel are also intriguing players, albeit cutting it close if they're ever going to be impact MLB players. It's also just too bad we never got to see Omar Linares in his prime...

Some other names to consider: Alex Guerrero (LAD) Erisbel Arruebarrena (LAD) Leonys Martin (TX) Yuliesky Gourriel Jose Iglesias (DET) Frederich Cepeda (played in JPN, Mexico, 34-35ish) Jose Miguel Fernandez (2B) Alfredo Despaigne (best remaining hitter, along with aging Gourriel) Ismel Jimenez Vladimir Gutierrez RHP 18 highest touted young pitching prospect, along with Alvares Freddy Asiel Alvarez RHP Villa Clara Danny Betancourt Vladimir Garcia RHP 26 Yosbany Alarcon Guillermo Heredia OF 23 Norge Luis Ruiz RHP 20 Kendrys Morales Odrisamer Despaigne (P) Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez (Phillies) Gerardo Concepcion (Cubs, LHP) Lazaro Alonso 20 1B Osniel Madera 29 OF Victor Mesa OF 18-19 Guillermo Aviles OF/1B 21 Andy Ibanez 2B 21 Hector Mendoza RHP 20 Yasiel Sierra RHP 23 Luis Yander Lo A (cool name) 22 3B Carlos Juan Viera, rhp, Las Tunas (Medium certainty): Raul Gonzalez, 2b/ss/3b, Matanzas (High): Alexei Bell, of, Santiago De Cuba (High): Cionel Perez, lhp, Matanzas (Low): Yadiel Hernandez, of, Matanzas (Medium): Yordan Manduley, ss, Holguin (High): Lourdes Gourriel, inf/of, Industriales (Very Low): Gio Gonzalez, Carlos Rodon, Jon Jay, Erik Hosmer, JP Arencibia, Alex Avila, Bronson Arroyo, Nolan Arenado, JD Martinez, Gaby Sanchez, Nick Castellanos, Matt Dominguez, Raul Ibanez....Cuban-Americans or at least Cuban ties http://www.bluejaysmessageboard.com/thread...g-Cuban-Players