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Viciedos at least having better ab's the times I have watched....just no results. Teams are so much more careful with abreu now that Dunn is gone. Maybe that's my imagination.

You can probably blame the tigers...for avi's fundamentals. You can blame the sox for lack of accountability if u want though. Detroit did pick up j.d. Martinez and rajai Davis for practically nothing so you can't be too dumb when u win a division four consecutive years. I personally hope the a's royals or mariners ruin someone's party in the playoffs. Except all three of those teams are holding on for dear life on their individual roller coaster rides. Possessing offenses other than cano are ugly bordering on putrid. Meanwhile Carlos Sanchez is down in the mid 500s ops-wise as predicted.

Everyone goes through similar feelings until/unless something big happens in the offseason... Being married now again I've spent a lot more time shopping and thats just as frivolous and usually wastes more money unless you actually attend most of the games. On the other hand impulse buying brings a different type of happiness for women. Life is always a trade off. I just watched hundreds if not thousands of people waiting for 2-3 hours for the grand opening of an ikea store here in china...and spent $750 on a Mont Blanc pen to make my wife happy so everything is pretty much relative. Next week I will see a wta tennis tournament live for the first time in wuhan. I've loved tennis my whole life yet never attended a single tournament until now. Maybe I will even meet Maria sharapova out shopping later haha. So Reading classic novels watching movies or tv shows...we all need our escapes in one form or another. Maybe for others it's music and going to concerts.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 05:41 PM) Damn I didn't realize how much power Nick Franklin had either. If its true Hahn wanted him, then that sucks to see. High k rate... So-so fielder he's going to be a decent player at the next level but not much more than that especially since he had to be moved off ss. Upside is dan uggla.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 12:12 PM) For all we know the Davidson deal was a blessing in disguise, kind of along the line DA was talking about earlier, how one move affects another. Davidson hitting .199 in Charlotte is bad but none of us give a s*** what the Knights do, we just care about what he does in MLB. But even if he hit .299 with the same or better power numbers and a lot better contact then it still wouldn't necessarily make it as a MLB player. However had Davidson put out a very good year instead of a very bad year then Hahn probably keeps a spot open on the 2015 MLB roster for him, and who knows, that could have ended up a mistake. As it is now, Davidson's bad year keeps him out of the picture & makes Hahn think about making another move he otherwise wouldn't have thought about making. If that move, then, is the one that really makes us better then how much all things considered has Davidson's bad AAA season hurt us? If Davidson or any other MiLB is going to bomb out on *us* before we are able to trade him and capitalize on his present value, then ideally that bombing occurs away from the MLB club where it actually has an on-field impact. That's convoluted logic....we were better off losing the santos reed and Jackson/teahen trades because whiffing on all those resulted in a more pronounced talent gap than previously?

Would love to see Garcia do that with plus fastballs instead of rolling curves but we will take it. Unfortunately the bad nl teams are falling back to us and the protected pick is in legit danger.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 11:19 PM) I believe his point was to show you that "good managers" doesn't equal "good teams". Hell, Maddens team this year is only 4 games better than the Sox....With a bullpen that pans out this season the Sox are at least a few games better than the Rays. Again people like to bring up the defense when talking about Robin, and I brought this up in a game thread the the day...The bottom 3 teams in errors this season are Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Oakland. Those teams are lead by Terry Francona (Last years AL manager of the year), Clint Hurdle(Last years NL manager of the year), and Bob Melvin(2012s AL manager of the year)....Now I know awards can be perceived as irrelevant, but wouldn't you say those guys are viewed as "good managers"? Why are their ball clubs last in errors? What about overall fielding percentage and team uzr?

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 10:53 PM) And yet there have been several offseasons where we thought we had a shot to win the WS..... 2006 was long ago as well....2009 nobody knew how Quentin would come back and 2011 will prevent sox fans from ever getting excited again about the addition of a thome/Dunn-esque slugger.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) Tigers put up a 10 spot on Vargas, Mariners up 8-2, Oakland spots Lester an early 3 run lead, not looking good for KC today Kc needs to win the next two since the Indians' loss is almost inevitable with how their offense has been sputtering...the tigers just have the horses to turn it on every year when they really need to get to the post-season...after that, not quite able to get over the top.

In other news...Marcus semien somehow has 13 errors already. Cue balta rant about moving him all over the field instead of sticking with one position.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 05:20 PM) Seriously WTF just happened? I literally can't read this. It's a string of names. Trying to type on a Chinese iPad mini is impossible.

Baez 0 for 5 with 3 k's and seven lob. At least soler looks legit...they need for Russell to be too so they can leverage him or Castro for pitching help.

Pearce peralta and Juan lagares top 15 in all of mlb war guys? C'mon. Peralta wasn't anywhere close to a good defensive ss five years ago! All we need to do is trade for Alex Gordon and Donaldson/beltre and we'd practically be guaranteed to win the World Series. And Matt kemp is only 0.4?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 04:18 PM) 3.) See I don't understand this reasoning. I understand the "logic" behind the trade. But if you are going to trade the ONLY closer on the team, make sure u have a fricking closer before doing so. Sox fans giving Hahn a pass on this deal confuse me. YES YES YES I understand the reasoning behind the trade. Relievers/closers are a dime a dozen and Reed wasn't that good anyway and he's just going to get worst. In return, Sox get an everyday third baseman for 10 years! Yes I understand the reasoning. I do not applaud the reasoning. Davidson is a huge flop right now and the Sox had a bullpen so bad it is beyond belief. Don't trade all your closer candidates. You must keep at least one who CAN CLOSE. I wish I had bosses like you guys. You guys give Hahn the benefit of the doubt cause on paper it was a good trade. Like Dick said SO WAS LOU BROCK FOR ERNIE BROGLIO. Hahn on this issue in my mind gets a big, fat grade of D. You know if we had a killer bullpen this season, the Sox might be right there with the Royals. Not without another good starting pitcher, a better defense and more offense from the corners 2b catcher and Dunn.

QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 03:57 PM) I agree with wite. Continuing to build our pitching is the best way to make us a contender. A better starting staff makes the bullpen better and requires the offense to do less and also it makes our defense more valuable. I came up with a Danks to Pirates hypothetical a while ago here, only problem was I had the Pirates giving us players they don't have. But we want Pedro Alvarez or something? Well, they can take Danks, we will give them lots of cash on that deal, they can give us Alvarez & Tabata's bad deal, and then we'll give them prospects or soemthing to make up the difference. They might be able to use him with Liriano leaving & Danks could probably use the NL right about now. Great match IMO. Okay so back to the world of make believe, imagine what it would be like for a lineup to have to deal with Sale's motion one day and then Cueto the next, and just to add a little extra there, let's say the Sox call up Danish late in the year and use him as a righty specialist/setup guy to acclimate him to the big leagues. That's like funky motion heaven. s***, pick up a reliever out of Japan while you're at it and play George Clinton around the park. Brooks Boyer wouldn't think of that though, we'd sign some guy named Takisumi and all Brooksy would come up with is OEO Takisooooomio or something like that. Anyway I like to pretend. They might not even tender Alvarez...it's like trading Dayan for him. Tabata is just another form of Moises Sierra or Michael Taylor at this point.

I'd rather gamble on cooper being able to refix Edwin Jackson again...with some money coming back in exchange for danks.

Have to agree with dick Allen on this one. It's like arguing trading santos was smart because Molina could have been a starter....whereas we'd be in far better shape despite his ups and downs with josh reddick plus. We can at least say the jake peavy/Red Sox trade is looking better and better by the month...if montas becomes a closer/starter, Garcia a 2-3 war player and rondon makes it eventually.

Beane and dombrowski look/ed dumber in the last month....but would anyone rather have jack z. Or Dayton Moore as their gm? Lester samardzija and price trades also looked reasonable at the time and still might end up working out in the end.

And yet the "tiger mom" effect of very harsh scolding intimidation psychological bruising...while it results in childhood control leads to teenage/adult rebellion and lots of kids here in china alienated from parents. The response back...everyone gets a medal lets have a politically correct play date it's okay if my kid is grossly overweight and addicted to computer games or porn instead of having bleeding hands from playing the violin or cello...there has to be a middle ground of reasonableness that avoids over permissiveness but also disqualifies rich kids being psychologically tortured by parents who always act like they know more than anyone else. For example many Asian students have to do well in math or they will be beaten bruised battered by their parents...but I doubt balta can correlate flat or falling math and science scores with "positive parenting" whatever that means these days.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 11:44 AM) .831 does not equal .770. Results for phegley danks Wilkins vis a vis Davidson in Charlotte this year don't compute

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 18, 2014 -> 08:32 PM) Can't wait for Birdman and Foxcatcher. A buddy saw em both in Colorado and loved em. The preview for bird man is def memorable Yay for Keaton's career comeback and not hamming it up in movies like need for speed

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) Way way less than that. Go look at his arb status and production this year. 2nd year arb eligible, probably pushing $6 million to keep next year, only 2 more years of team control, rotten and injury plagued season, seemingly can't play 3b any more. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he was non-tendered after 2015. He'd be a decent guy to flip for Viciedo actually, if the Pirates thought Viciedo could fit at 1b for them. Pedro Alvarez is the kind of guy I could see the Sox going after...because I expect them to keep scraping the bottom of the barrel. Pedro Alvarez is scraping the bottom of the barrel right now. That would be ibanez and Carlos Pena Lind markakis Rasmus Dominic brown Alvarez....Delmon young just for hawks sake...Nolan reimold etc.

How much will the white sox have to spend on players currently outside the org to fix the pen? How much will it cost to pay Nate jones to rehab all season? How much was wasted on belisario, lindstrom, downs and Paulino with zero net return on investment?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 01:58 AM) Well if somebody can continue to say Davidson would have been great this season had he made the team out of spring training and his mental makeup caused his lousy minor league season, then I can say Addy Reed would have been even better in a White Sox uniform as closer this season after a pretty good year the year before. He'd have been even better than in Arizona cause of the comfort level as continuing Sox closer. Anything is possible.

It hasn't hurt the DBacks any because Davidson hasn't done a thing and they had three "better" players in (their minds) in place, so it's hard to consider it much of a loss for them...it really hasn't helped either team at this point. I'd call it neutral at best for AZ this season (leaning negative) and bad for the Sox simply because of what eventually happened with the bullpen and the fact that nobody emerged to consistently take the ball in the 9th with a lead...Petricka had his moments, but he's far from a sure things, and shouldn't even be the presumed closer going into 2015. It's more of a typical KW early 2000's move...trading prospects for somewhat "proven" major league players.