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We were talking about successful big league starters at the 5'10" or 5'9 mark. Whitey Ford of the Yankees would be another example, or Ron Guidry, come to mind. Fernando Valenzuela, Pedro Martinez, Tom Glavine, Tim Lincecum, Billy Wagner (for a reliever)…Gio Gonzalez.

By my count, Chris Sale has already thrown 1,064 pitches this season. In his next start, he'll pass his entire 2011 major league workload at the 1/3rd mark of the season. Three starts from now, he'll pass his entire MLB career (1,477 pitches) in 2 1/3 months (yes, this doesn't take into consideration Chris' amateur career before he joined the Sox). The question I would have is does the fact that does the fact that Chris has let up quite a bit with the fastball (except when he really needs to dial it up into the 95-97 mph range) help his elbow's longevity, or is the biggest concern still the slider? In the 15 K game, the majority of the K's came on sliders, although he is throwing it statistically less often than he did in 2011 and 2010. Is there any way to measure the torque on an elbow...vis a vis someone like Liriano, who threw his slider in the 89-92 MPH range at the height of his success in 2006. One would think that because Chris doesn't throw his slider nearly as hard as Liriano that, heaven forbid, if he ever did suffer an injury or need surgery, he'd be much more likely to bounce back compared to what we've seen with the Twins' pitcher.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 10:58 AM) Youks batting .314 since coming off the DL, raising his BA from .219 to .253, raising his OBP .032 points to .324, and his OPS .103 points up from .635 to .738. His back was clearly holding him back, but then again perhaps the same could be said for Brent. If Brent doesnt come back and perform and Youks still available for Thornton and lower level prospects you do that deal. IMO adding youk moves the sox from a playoff contender to a WS contender. Is the "WS Contender" factoring in acquiring Youkilis without giving up Floyd, Thornton or Crain? Just taking on salary...or sending prospects their way? The problem is the better Youkilis starts to play, the more likely they are to hold onto him...and Middlebrooks, like all rookies, will go through a down period where a team in a pennant race will be tempted to go with the veteran leader, just like they did with Mike Lowell in the past. With the AL East being such a logjam, this trade becomes less and less likely the better the Red Sox play, especially with all the issues in Boston's outfield offensively.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 04:36 PM) SUCK IT SEAMEN! At least Hawk didn't say "Saunders took a facial" in Game 1. Although maybe Stone Pony did...

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 03:57 PM) 6 up on Detroit. Believe it or not, the Tigers are just 1 game better than Kansas City. Oy. The same Royals who were 6-18 at HOME this season coming into Sunday's play. WOW.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 08:02 AM) The flip side of the attendance issue is, taking last year as an example, they had the highest payroll in their history and according to Forbes made money averaging only 25,000. It shows a pretty strong franchise with room to grow. One of the neat little statistical comparisons between this year and last is that we're almost exactly 100,000 behind last year's attendance pace. Through 27 home games in 2011 (cutoff is June 8th game with SEA), we had drawn 661,813 fans, for an average of 24,512. Through 27 hom games in 2012 (cutoff is June 3rd game with SEA), we've drawn 561,934 fans, for an average of 20,812. The net difference is 3,700 fans per game. However, when you take into consideration we lopped off roughly 20% of our payroll (more or less $25 million), a 15% decrease in attendance is clearly offset by the highest prices in baseball for parking, top 4-5-6 for tickets, etc. So we're just as profitable, it not a tick or two more profitable, than 2011. If the dynamic pricing model wasn't making them MORE profits, they wouldn't be sticking with it. Perhaps actual attendance and announced attendance would show a disparity (one could assume more fans were using their tickets in early 2011 and less as the season wore on, as opposed to the opposite effect this year).

This is all fine and good until Konerko suffers a season-ending injury or pulls a hammy lunging to his left or right or trying to come in on a bunt and throwing across his body in a way he's not used to doing. Viciedo...okay, he's played with position as recently as 3 years ago. Konerko, no way.

Actually, Nathan Jones now is in the pen...maybe Quintana just getting in work for his next start depending on Danks' status.

Quintana warming up. What? That's interesting. Guess RV is in love with LH relievers this year...

Would have to guess Sale at least gets to go out and start the 9th. Off-day tmrw. Hate to bring in a reliever with a runner or runners on base, but he's earned the shot at the CG if he can keep his pitch count down. This is going to be the problem all year long. He's so good, you keep telling yourself you have to protect him, even though it's so tempting to leave him out there. He does have that extra day of rest, right?

Can Ventura go to Reed again? Pitch count 99.

Yay! We have 2 bench players now over the .200 mark. Sale's at 94 pitches. Very tempting to leave him in the for the 8th...at least until he gives up a baserunner.

Twins still up 3-2 after getting out to the early 3-0 lead in the top of the 5th. Similar to the game yesterday, where they were out front early 4-0.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 03:08 PM) Mitchell 2-2 already and B-Ham cruising. http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?s...biraax_mobaax_1 I think we have a real OF prospect again. Yay! 36 RBI's, and, most importantly, his 37th walk of the season.

5th walk on the season for Viciedo. Don't think he'll be hitting cleanup too many more times this season. What's the status of Fukudome?

QUOTE (Brian26 @ Jun 3, 2012 -> 01:41 PM) Did you copy these from a post on WSI? Driving me crazy because I thought I saw it somewhere else recently. http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbullet...p;postcount=245 The first quote is from Mark Liptak, their resident scribe from Idaho who I think works for a newspaper/media outlet. But yeah, in the original quote, I attributed it directly to him. The second was a quote that I looked up from Ozzie.

Guess the story of today's game is missed opportunities/LOB and the fact that the score could easily be 6-7-8 to 2, right? Seems like some of those bases-loaded situations could have ended up with more runs scoring if not for some flukey plays?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1048975.story Harrelson calls Wegner, apologizes

Yu Darvish and CJ Wilson locked in a bitter pitcher's duel in the 6th, 0-0. Momentum shifting game if the Angels can win again and put some real pressure on the Rangers this season. They hadn't been previously threatened.

I thought it was a promotion for a new Terminator movie, lol.

Hungry fans may purchase a $35 game ticket for unlimited All-You-Can-Eat items. These items include hot dogs, nachos, peanuts, popcorn, Pepsi soda products and ice cream. Sections 316, 317 and 318 are available to fans on an individual game and discounted group ticket basis. All-You-Can-Eat items are available when the gates open through the end of the 7th inning. Oakland A's promotion If they did some more packages like that with the upper deck tickets, or put them in combo packs where the parking price was included with the ticket and food, then by disguising the high individual, one-time cost for parking, fans (imo) would be much more likely to attend games, and it would keep the upper deck vendors much happier with more tips and less staff being sent home early every night.

Mitchell 2 for 5 with his NINTH triple of the season, .290, 34th rbi. Just to mix things up, they tried Jose Martinez leading off...and he had a solid game. KWJR with a career game, 3/4, all the way up to .213, haha.

Amazing finish to the Tigers/Yankees game. Two Cabrera homers to take leads. Papa Grande gives up a HBP, walk to Jeter, three total stolen bases in one inning, somehow retires Granderson, hits A-Rod to load the bases, Cano also amazing pops up with 1 out and bases loaded, walks TEX to tie the score 3-3....Ibanez was retired but the catcher dropped a foul pop-up and he eventually was retired on a groundout. Feels like one of those season-changing games no matter which way it ends up.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2012 -> 07:09 PM) He also should have knocked down the double. Was the balk call legit? I was sitting a couple rows behind the Mariners on deck circle, you could hear Robing yelling the call was "bulls***". If it was, it was such a close call that no other MLB umpire would possibly have called it. Thankfully, that run didn't score at least.

Happy for Gordon to play this well in front of his parents. Really hope he's finally turned the corner. Have to throw out mad props to Dayan Viciedo and Nathan Jones, those two guys are the ones that have been among the most fun to follow this year. DeAza has just been super steady, the definition of consistency...same with AJ's overall season so far. And you knew Dunn and Konerko were due to have a cold spell. Heck, Alex Rios is dangerous, from 1-7, pretty awesome line-up, and Alexei's at least been dangerous. And it's nice to be "upset" with the offense when they're putting up 8 runs and losing, shades of 2000 offensively (and pitching-wise, too).