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You'd have to think that with 95 pitches, at best he'll get the 7th inning to tie the White Sox all-time record of 16. Can't imagine he would get pushed up into the high 110's or low 120's. Guess it depends on how Chris is feeling, but you just can't afford to chance it. 23 pitches last inning, and a few foul balls. Only four "regular" outs.

That might be the Sox record for strikeouts by a LHP. Was Harshman in 1954 LH? Alvarez's career high?

16 the record for Sox strikeouts in a game, Jack Harshman in 1954. 14 K's...would have a legit chance at 20 K's, but absolutely no way they're going to push him well over 100 pitches....would they?

Didn't realize Farnsworth's father was shot down twice in Vietnam. They were just playing a snippet of an interview with him and he was absolutely bawling reminscing about his dad, his sacrifices, how lucky he was to survive...about "adopting" a soldier through one of the many military/veteran websites out there.

Now the question is if Moore can get settled down again or whether he implodes... Sale definitely righted the ship after the gift run scored instead of letting his anger get to him. 9 homers is a ton for Moore at this point in the season. 2nd homer by a lefty. Dunn's LHP struggles last year aren't such an issue in 2012. Seems like so long ago that Lillibridge seemed the much better option there at DH against LHP.

Leyland and Lamont got thrown out of that Tigers/Red Sox game. Looks like the Cubs are in danger of actually winning a game, up by one in the 7th. Maybe that will jinx them, like usually happens in the wrong way with Indians and Tigers games. And it's not like they have a closer these days. Dave Wills said Ventura is taking a page out of the Rays' playbook. Flew from Chicago to TB with shorts, flip-flops, t-shirts. Doesn't seem to be so concerned with them being dressed up like businessmen on the plane, especially when the team is playing well and so loose and relaxed.

Stanton has 11 homers this month...a bit hot. OzzieBall. Forgot that Dan Johnson hit that homer against the White Sox, thanks for the reminder, Dave Wills...reminiscing about Hickey and Skowron, and how the White Sox were in such a fog that game they lost the day of Hickey's funeral. Fond memories of all the first-name stories about Mickey, Roger, Whitey, Yogi, etc. Baseball history, primary source...was that Moose.

The problem is that trading Ramirez right now is that his defense has been so important (missing the tag on Zobrist notwithstanding just now) and he's been showing signs of life offensively as well. We all know by now the Cubans hit much better in the summer heat. And we're not going to get a major league ready SS back, so that would force Escobar/Lillibridge into the line-up. Perhaps, down the line, Saladino can stick there, but he's at least 1 1/2 seasons away from being ready (August/Sept, 2013), and that's being pretty optimistic.

Rare AJ strikeout. Viciedo's getting his share of infield groundball hits now these days...used to hit everything on the ground weakly at fielders or into DP's. 4/19 on the season so far for Hudson. I guess that's not entirely unexpected, based on how he was hitting in SD and how he looked for the Twins two seasons ago.

Dave Wills was mentioning that the Rays should attack Dunn and/or Hudson by bunting more frequently, and he's probably right. That was shades of Frank Thomas playing 1B there and attempting to throw across the diamond. First MLB RBI there...he was something like 3/33 in his minor league rehab assignment. Oh, well.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 28, 2012 -> 09:58 AM) Caulfield. I might be one of the few who doesn't mind your "longwindedness" . I don't mind at all reading well thought out posts like yours that cover many angles. Just because it's a message board doesn't mean every post has to be a witty sound byte type post. I applaud your intellect however... you are not above mocking people. I have seen you do it to greg many times with your lie detector comments. Yeah, I guess quite a few piled on with the "remember the U.S.S. Paul Konerko" comments, lol. Maybe it's because I actually believe Greg posts sometimes simply to be a contrarian, especially about all things Ozzie/Cowley/Wise/Pierre/Pods/Harrelson/Jenks/any member of the 2005 WS team. And maybe I felt differently about it because it came from a mod and not Dick Allen or Marty, too.

QUOTE (sunofgold @ May 27, 2012 -> 09:50 PM) I think 93 runs over the last 13 games. If you cannot credit the hitting coach during a streak like this, you will never ever praise a hitting coach. Lol. We would be better off next year with a robotic hitting coach, video and computer simulations. Then we can answer the question once and for all about the value of a human hitting coach. Even in Atlanta, Walker has an assistant hitting coach in Scott "Scooter" Fletcher who's spending as much time, if not more, with their young hitters. And apparently their two approaches are very, very different. So can we realistically ascertain which one as actually had the bigger impact?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 27, 2012 -> 10:48 PM) Heh.. That's what SHE said. I'll open your dome, baby.

Here's another barometer we can use to compare 2010 and 2012 (although the 26-5 streak happened in June/July, when school was already out). Home games in the middle of hot streak Tuesday-Thursday series against the Braves, 29,137 average Monday-Thursday series against the Angels, 27,212 average (38,000+ for the Monday discount night) Friday-Sunday against Royals, 28,984 average (this is when we moved into 1st place) Then you had the Cubs home weekend series in there as well, where we took the first two and lost the 3rd. But all told, we were a bit unlucky to only have 13 home games and 18 road games in that stretch.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 27, 2012 -> 09:21 PM) You're paying for a service. Of course you should be discounted if you pick the food up yourself. But there are many countries where they offer free delivery in order to grow market share and encourage ordering that might not otherwise take place. Remember all those internet start-ups in the 90's that promised to deliver item XYZ (like groceries) to your home for no charge, or amazon.com not charging for delivery (service) if the order was above a certain amount. Part of it's marketing, too. If they didn't offer free delivery in some of these countries, they'd lose customers. It all depends on your perspective. Like here in China, there are no tips, or tips only at 4-5 star hotels in the biggest, most international cities. Of course, in the process of providing free delivery, they do that on the backs of employees making $1.25-2.50 USD per hour typically, while the food itself costs about 75-80% of what it would in the US.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 27, 2012 -> 03:52 PM) Sale and Moore will be a really good matchup. Moore's had issues getting out of the 5th inning this year. Humber better come out and have his stuff, Shields is tough. Cobb and Quintana seems like a wash. What's the early VEGAS over/under for RUNS SCORED in the Noesi/Floyd match-up, lol? Probably be a 1-0 shutout by one team or the other. Kind of sucks that Humber won't get to face the M's again when he has so much confidence going against them. Then again, they'd probably be keyed up to face him and win 7-0 going away, baseball's strange like that.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 27, 2012 -> 07:36 PM) During the insane 19-4 stretch or whatever it was, I'm sure there were at least 3 sweeps in there. 26-5 We had individual streaks within that stretch of 11-0 and 9-0. Sweeps were @ Pittsburgh, @ Washington, ATL (when the Braves were one of the best teams in the majors), LAA (4 game sweep) and the Royals. So five series sweeps in basically one month, including a 4 gamer. Of course, we won the first game against the Twins (high water mark) and proceeded to lose 3 in a row (July 16th-18th horror apocalypse starring Jenks, to later to be followed by Thornton/Thome).

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 27, 2012 -> 05:16 PM) Then he's just not cut out for the White Sox. He would be the first "Russian" major league baseball player, if he makes it. He's the son of first-generation Russian immigrants. Noticed the first Brazilian-born player made it, Yan Gomes of the Blue Jays was born in Sao Paulo. Not related to our own dearly-beloved Anderson Gomes, he of the fastest time to 1B in recorded history but not the ability to hit the ball to get there.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 27, 2012 -> 06:39 PM) People that are giving Manto credit should be ready to support him when the bats go dead. Royals fans who sang Seitzer's praises last year now want him fired TODAY. It's one or the other. you are either good or not good. They shouldn't have traded Melky Cabrera for Sanchez. Hosmer's coming around (still has a horrific BABIP), and Gordon's having a down season so far, but Moustakas has actually made significant progress from how bad he looked last season. Butler's evolved into one of the best hitters in the AL, as predicted for many years by Harrelson and many others. They've also suffered a significant number of injuries, like Lorenzo Cain, for example. Pitching is more the Royals' main problem, and always has been. Outside of that horrific start, they've played above .500 baseball against good competition, it's just that season has become irrelevant to many because of the bad streak....just like the White Sox suffered early last season to knock them out of competition.

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QUOTE (chw42 @ May 27, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) Matt Moore can barley get through 5 innings. We'll see if this trend continues tomorrow. Reminds everyone to sit down, relax, strap it down and enjoy the game with an ice-cold brew. Are you an advertising exec putting subliminal messages into SoxTalk?

So we should have a board-wide moratorium on any trade conjecture or any consideration of whether this team will be able to compete or not until roughly the middle of July? That would wipe out about half of SoxTalk, except Balta in the Trayvon Martin thread, "can you be a good Samaritan without believing in God?" and appropriate tipping habits from various perspectives. By definition, aren't those who now think this team is miraculously competitive or is built to win in 2012 overreacting? Or are those who are holding out for the rebuild and waiting for the inevitable cold streak again being negative "dark clouds" flying in the face of Mr. Saint's relentless gauntlet throwdown/wrestling challenge that the White Sox are actually a dynasty evolving into reality as we speak?

If Ozzie Guillen was still the manager, they'd be in full "lift and pull" mode. Actually, the Indians' announcers noticed this right away. Said the White Sox were making a concerted effort to take outside pitches and go with them and didn't fall away from that plan throughout the entire series. That they looked like they approached the plate with a plan, from a line-up wide perspective, almost to the point where they seemed to know what pitches were coming when and exactly what to do with them. Were actually quite impressed we didn't fall into our usual bad habits...that the most consistent thing with our approach was taking almost every pitch back up the middle or hitting it back from where it was pitched.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 27, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) If I am KW, I read this thread and irrationally overreact and attempt to gain full value for every player in the entire organization and then consider pretty much every angle from the Cubs attendance and result to the overall Forbes value of the team. Ready. Set. Go! So basically you have nothing to add, besides perhaps mocking me indirectly (or directly if you want to credit most with a modicum of intelligence)? Where did I suggest doing anything? I pointed out the reasons they PROBABLY won't do anything, and you're not going to get as much for Floyd now anyways until when he goes on one of his patented hot streaks. What players did I suggest trading besides POSSIBLY Thornton, Floyd and Crain? Last time, I checked, I was wholeheartedly against the idea of trading Viciedo. You can search/check the entire history of this board from November of 2008 and you'll never see me saying such a thing. And improving the worst bench in the major leagues is a bad thing? Not worth discussion or thinking about? There's nothing interesting at all about the team being in the position they are now when 2 weeks ago NEARLY EVERY SINGLE THREAD talked about this team in terms of the future and rebuilding? Isn't trading those three players and clearing their contracts for younger prospects to come exactly the kind of move a rebuilding team SHOULD make? At a certain point, you don't think KW's starting to believe this team, as CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED with a few additions, could actually WIN NOW? Wasn't the whole theme of the entire offseason constructing a team for 2013, 2014 and beyond? Doesn't the attendance certain reflect that belief in the fanbase? You truly believe what the Cubs are doing (positively and negatively) has absolutely no effect on the White Sox? What about KW's quotes once upon a time about making this a "White Sox town?" Just bold talk? The Cubs are going to finish with the worst or second worst record in the major leagues, and nobody's viewing this now (2012) as a golden opportunity? You really believe the White Sox are so cash poor they have no money to make an acquisition? If the cost/benefit of trading Gavin Floyd for a prospect and opening up that spot in the rotation for one of our young starters is such a clear decision, I bet you'd have nearly universal approval for it. But I would imagine if it was put to a poll, no more than 50% of the board would be for this move (despite three pretty much disastrous starts in a row), because they know what pieces in our minor league system we'd use to replace him, let's say Dylan Axelrod. That's not an issue worthy of debate and consideration?

That does it. Can never talk about any Tigers game for the rest of the season. Cabrera homer to CF on an 0-2 pitch...Tigers now up by 1.