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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) vs lefties this year...who's who? .289/.313/.368/.682 .228/.307/.342/.649 .220/.278/.300/.578 They are Thornton, Ohman, and Sale in order. Difference is, Thornton and Sale hold righties below a .700 OPS too, so they can be used for an inning or two at a time. Righties are hitting at an .813 clip against Ohman. The game is tied, you need one lefty out, and you have enough other options to use against righties. Who do you want pitching in the 13th, given this information, Matt Thornton or Will Ohman? The problem is that you plan for the extra inning game with the White Sox offense but then Ozzie seems to end up losing the game before we can get there as often and not....and now Konerko's bat isn't in the line-up, either. I don't know. No matter what you do, this team just doesn't have it in 2012 and hasn't all year. It's like 2007 and 2009 all over again.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:24 PM) De Aza hasn't been coached long enough by Walker to ruin his swing. If we don't have a new hitting coach next season, I'd rather see him in the minors again where we can save his potential. Except he's already 29 or 30, isn't he? At least 28.

There's danger here, Sheree.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:21 PM) Cause it's still early. We play Detroit six more times and play the Central the final 21 games or so. Obviously sarcasm. He got VERY lucky there. I guess it worked, but it wasn't a wise move.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:19 PM) 1.) DeAza can run. He hits the ball very hard. He seems to belong. How old is he? I like him? There is absolutely no reason to play Rios over him next year. None. It will be criminal if Rios plays ahead of this guy. 2.) Exactly. It is a fairy tale that he will bounce back again, but the Dunn lovers will always have the upper hand on us. They'll say, 'You wait. He will break out of this and when he does...' It's not going to happen. He is horrific and I just wish Sox would let him earn his money as a pinch hitter in blowouts. Except he can't earn $14 million doing that. He's costing us the same as Ramirez, Thornton, Viciedo, Sale, Morel, Flowers, DeAza, Humber and Santos next year.

Here's where I will wonder why Sale or Thornton aren't being used when we simply can't afford to lose another game to the Tigers.

Is anyone willing to bet even $100 that Dunn hits 35 homers with 100 RBI's next year?

2000 career hits for Konerko. Congratulations. the greatest White Sox player since Frank Thomas clearly. Only 107 homers to 500 and the Hall of Fame.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:07 PM) Hey, De Aza might be good. Probably has as many steals as Juan Pierre in the 2nd half. Which wouldn't be saying much.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:04 PM) Just saw the Kendrick triple. Pretty awful adjustment made by Rios. It was, he drifted way too far to the left and essentially overran it enough that he couldn't correct at the last second. Harrelson was right, it should have been caught. He has never ever learned to go straight back at full speed to where he thinks the ball should be and then finding it again...just bad fundamentals which apparently nobody has corrected with either the Blue Jays or Sox. At best, it was a dubious route. But that's what you expect on any ball hit over Rios' head this season.

Gordon's thanking his lucky stars he won't be facing the high fastball from Walden in the 9th. Not a pretty sight. Konerko might be the only chance to tie the game...let's hope he hits a solo homer. Nobody else will be able to get to his fastball.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:01 PM) I think trying a new hitting coach wouldn't hurt either. And even that won't matter much in the "doomsday" scenario described. About the only thing that would be worse from a fan standpoint would be losing Buehrle AND Konerko in one offseason.

QUOTE (kapzk @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) It wasn't too bad of a choice, obviously it was out of the ordinary, but high chopper he was already rounding 2nd when the infielder got rid of the ball so might as well try. Except he was the tying run there in the late innings and the advantage of being at 3rd base with two outs isn't significant. Maybe Santana could throw another pitch in the dirt, but that's not enough of a justification to take the risk.

Perfect, the White Sox suck and at least posters are all simultaneously wondering if maybe Rios/Dunn/Peavy can be involved in a hunting accident, lol. Fitting, though. I'm about ready to send good 'ol boys Harrelson and Beckham with them on that trip, too.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 09:55 PM) Any chance we can get Adam Dunn, Jake Peavy and Gil Meche to become hunting buddies this offseason? Can Dick Cheney and Alex Rios also be there?

Mental/physical error #5 or #6 tonight. We're just not good enough to cover up all those mistakes. Shame on Ozzie for never holding a single player accountable all season except Rios for 2 games.

Juan Uribe wasn't too shabby, either.

11 straight starts for Santana into the 7th inning...

Because the Tigers don't have a second starter if the playoffs were to start tomorrow, it'd probably be Scherzer. (They are five deep through 2014, so they could easily afford to just "rent" Buehrle for the final five weeks and post-season). The Yankees clearly don't have defined 2nd or 3rd starters. We're going to need to save every penny we can payroll-wise the next 2-3 seasons, might as well start now. It already began with Teahen and Jackson being shed.

I'm sure Kendrys Morales will somehow end up on the White Sox roster soon... The worst part about this game is we're going to have to use the bullpen for at least 2 innings, but I guess it doesn't matter with all the offdays this week. Crain warming up.

This.team.is.dead. God, Buehrle obviously hasn't been sharp or locating his pitches, but this game is so typical of the White Sox in 2011. And frustrating. Basically, four errors in four innings just gave the Angels 2 runs.

We might as well just go ahead and save $3 million and get back a return from either the Yankees or Red Sox. The only problem is that the Tigers would probably claim him first and then we'd have to pull Mark back. But all those teams could desperately use a veteran, proven 2nd or 3rd starter for the playoffs. Note: The only way I would do this is if they were pretty sure from all indications that he wasn't interested in coming back to the Sox in 2012...or if he agreed to come back and they could get a nice return when the team's essentially out of the race and will be bleeding red ink with abysmal attendance the final 5 weeks as all attention turns to the Bears, college football, Blackhawks and Bulls, etc. It doesn't matter whether they win tonight, this team is just not going to be able to play well enough when you make the types of lackadaisiscal plays we've seen from Ramirez, Pierre (that's about the 3rd or 4th time this season we've seen someone go from 1st and home on a single because of an outfielder's nonchalance or lack of awareness of the baserunner.... Alex Rios can't go back on a ball to save his life. I don't care if he had a double. He's been a horrible outfielder this season. He consistently misreads balls hit over his head and just as consistently misreads balls that end up landing in front of him. Really, there have already been four defensive errors because if Rios doesn't overrun that ball coming in and ending up having to throw from almost a dead stop, he gets the runner at home and this game is now tied. Adam Dunn is really going to kill off the fanbase and might be the end of JR too if he has to watch this for another season.

Wonder if the Indian can pull off the comeback from 10-2 down? Now 11-5 in the 6th. Revere's basically going to be fighting with Span for that spot benchwarmerjim, don't see any way they can possibly fit into the same outfield. With so many questions surrounding Morneau, Mauer's power outage, Cuddyer and/or Kubel possibly on the way out...where are they going to get even 20 homers from? They might even have to bring back Jim Thome next year...? Unless they would be willing to take Dunn, in which case he'd probably club 38 homers for another division winner.

All I know is Danny Glover or the kid from Little Big League should be our manager for the remainder of the season in order to pull this off.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Aug 23, 2011 -> 04:29 PM) Ohman is a LOOGY, and a good one at that. Look up the definition of that, and you'll see that he's only good against lefties and that's all he's supposed to be used for. Our manager is the only one that doesn't see that. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/4563/will-ohman This is the problem, because he exists and is a "veteran," Ozzie overuses him in higher leverage situations. Our "LOOGY" has the same exact number of appearances against LH batters as RH batters. Exactly 79 AB's versus both. He's been pretty effective against lefties, as you would expect. However, he's giving up a 266 BA, 801 OPS and 3 HR's and 17 RBI's in those appearances against RH batters.