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Just imagine if we HAD traded Viciedo for Dunn...as it stands, we lost that first round draft pick, but the pitchforks really would have been out in full force were Viciedo putting up similar numbers in the majors (for the Nats) to what he's doing in AAA. It would be even more amusing with Morse also raking and our obvious offensive problems back in Chicago.

Maybe Halladay is the opposite of Alexei Ramirez?

signed extension with White Sox 7/8/07 08:$14M, 09:$14M, 10:$14M, 11:$14M award bonus: $25,000 for Gold Glove, $15,000 for All Star selection no-trade protection 2008: full no-trade clause 2009 - July 15, 2010: limited no-trade protection allowing Buehrle to block trades to certain unspecified clubs. A trade triggers an escalator paying $1M raise to $15M annually, plus a guaranteed fifth year paying $15M for 2012. July 16, 2010-2011: Buehrle may not be traded without his permission, under rights as a 10-and-5 player

Interesting take on why Moustakas is possibly struggling so much. On the first point, the best theory — beyond his facing better pitching — is a mixture of ego and a sort of sibling rivalry gone too far. Eric Hosmer is a close friend. Moustakas has always been The Man of the Royals’ youth movement, the first player officially drafted by general manager Dayton Moore, and the one the front office envisions being the undisputed team leader someday. But at some point in the last year, Hosmer became the Royals’ consensus best prospect. When he was the first one called up this year, Moustakas’ numbers at Class AAA took off immediately. Many don’t think that’s a coincidence. Now that they’re both in Kansas City, Moustakas wants to show fans and the organization that he’s as good as Hosmer. The competition is friendly and mostly unspoken, but it exists. Hosmer is a step ahead, and maybe Moustakas wants to catch up too quickly. Yost says he talks to Moustakas “every day” about being patient and staying confident. The manager’s words about Moustakas’ good body language and thirst for extra work being a positive sign are echoed throughout the organization. The easy thing would be to send Moustakas back to Omaha. Not as a punishment or a sign that he’s no good, but as a chance to remember what it’s like to succeed. As a bonus, the Royals could then play Wilson Betemit every day and better present him for trade possibilities. The Royals aren’t doing that, and internally say they aren’t even considering it, an obvious symbol about what their bigger purpose is. This is the worst team in the American League and, at the moment, particularly dreadful offensively. Overall they’re sixth in runs, but — coincidence or not — are down about 10 percent in runs, hitting, on-base and slugging percentage since Moustakas’ slump began. They’re 4-8 in that time. For as long as Moustakas isn’t hitting, the Royals will have trouble scoring and winning. Chris Getz has the lowest slugging percentage in the American League. Alcides Escobar has the 11th worst. There just isn’t room for another zero in the lineup. In a strange way, the Royals’ being 20 games under .500 and 13 1/2 games out of first place gives them the freedom to operate this way. If they were even six or seven games better, they may be tugged into decisions based more on a faint hope this year rather than the timeline they’ve spent a fortune and the better part of a decade building toward. If another season of 90-plus losses allows Moustakas to work through this initiation and come out the other side as a legitimate middle-of-the-order run producer, then these are good growing pains. Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/18/30219...l#ixzz1SXY5CRY2

3. The White Sox's recent signing of Doug Davis was done with the idea of a possible Edwin Jackson trade in mind. He provides insurance behind Jake Peavy should the Sox take the best offer they get for Jackson, as with him gone they'd be down to five starters. Ozzie Guillen's six-man rotation has cut down the workload for the starting rotation. Mark Buehrle has worked a team high 121 innings entering his start Monday night in Kansas City, and he ranks 39th among major-leaguers in innings pitched. Also, don't forget about Chris Sale. He could be transitioned into the starting rotation if Jackson was traded and a need arose. The one thing we should know about the White Sox is they're going to do something at the trade deadline, even if only Kenny Williams has an idea what he's going to do. Phil Rogers is on crack cocaine. Zambrano, Marmol and especially Aramis Ramirez to the Tigers, at least some of that is logical. The Cubs wantingback Brandon Inge, not even Hendry is THAT dumb. It's almost as logical as the Yankees giving the Sox Curtis Granderson for Rios and Danks. Rogers should know better than to think you can just stick Chris Sale in the starting rotation like that, too. Transitioning over 4-6 weeks and then pitching in the heart of the pennant race as a starter for the first time in months, that doesn't seem like a good idea. If we couldn't/didn't trust Daniel Hudson in that role, why would we ever think Sale could do it more easily than Hudson?

TIM WAKEFIELD (it's pretty amazing how much mileage they've gotten out of him at that price...but I couldn't see Buehrle ever taking a deal where it was so incentives-based) 2 years/$5.5M (2010-11) signed extension with Boston 11/9/09 10:$3.5M, 11:$2.0M 2011 base salary increases based on innings in 2010: $2M salary with 130 IP in 2010 (met) performance bonuses based on starts: 2010: $50,000 each for 11-15 GS; $75,000 each for 16-25 GS; $100,000 each for 26-30 GS $2M base: $75,000 each for 11-15 GS; $0.15M each for 16-20 GS; $0.2M each for 21-30 GS 1 year/$4M (2006), with recurring club options signed extension with Boston 4/19/05 06:$4M, 07:$4M club option, 08:$4M club option (added 10/06)

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 19, 2011 -> 02:15 AM) That's right . Dunn has been disgustingly brutal. Right now Viciedo with a broken arm is better than Dunn. Is that hyperbole? Not even sure anymore at this rate. We need Pete Gray (Grey?) or Jim Abbott to test this nascent theory...

But so has Gordon Beckham (the last two weeks), and not very many Sox fans are happy with him either.

But with all of his talk about early retirement, I think he'd be very content with either a 2 or possibly 3 year deal, then reassessing where things stand again with his family. I don't think there are very many teams out there who will be throwing 5 year offers out there, let alone 6.

The Mariners traded Asdrubal Cabrera, a middle infielder batting .236 at Class AAA Tacoma, to Cleveland for veteran first baseman/DH Eduardo Perez on June 30, 2006. Perez offered little assistance to the M's attempt to win the AL West, batting .195 with one home run and 11 RBI in a half-season. Around 12:50 p.m. Monday, Cabrera waited back on an Anthony Swarzak changeup and whacked it into Target Field's right field bump-out for a three-run homer. This increased Cleveland's lead to 4-0 in what became a 5-2 victory for the first-place Indians. This increased Cabrera's totals to 17 home runs and 58 RBI in 380 at-bats. That is quite an upgrade in power for a 25-year-old who had 18 home runs and 166 RBI in four prior seasons and 1,415 at-bats for Cleveland. The moral of these tales is this: Seattle should never trade a shortstop to Cleveland -- particularly if he happens to wear No. 13 and come from Venezuela. (The other trade was of course Felix Fermin and Reggie Jefferson for Omar Vizquel 15 years earlier) As Twins followers try to convince themselves the Indians are not a factor, there's no better place to like Cleveland in a matchup than at shortstop, the most important fielding position on a diamond. The Twins have a shortstop who looks as if he learned the fundamentals at a baseball academy in Liechtenstein, not as a Gold Glove winner in the Japan League, and the Indians have the best shortstop in the American League. "Flat out, Cabrera has been our MVP,'' Cleveland manager Manny Acta said after Game 1 of the split doubleheader. "He has saved a lot of runs with his defense. We knew he would do that. What surprises everybody is his power." Patrick Reusse, Star Tribune

Coming into this season, you would have thought he was a combination of Roy Hobbs and Shoeless Joe Jackson the way some raved about him.

http://www.csnchicago.com/07/18/11/Buehrle...&feedID=661 How many years and how much money do you offer? If you "lowball" him (based on this year's salary...remember, we had the same situation with Magglio coming off the $14.5 million he made in 2004 but he was injured and his career looked to be in total jeopardy)...compared to his 2011 salary, how much lower can you actually go without insulting one of the two most important players in recent franchise history? Will it be one of those situation like in the past where they APPEAR TO TRY to sign him but make him an offer (or offers) that SEEM reasonable to fans but which they know will never be accepted by Mark and his agent? Do you gamble and try to get Jackson back instead (of Buehrle)? Can we keep Buehrle AND Danks in the same rotation in 2012? With Rios, Dunn, Teahen and Peavy "wasting" so much of the already-allocated payroll for next year, will JR decide against keeping Mark purely for financial reasons? What will the corresponding loss in revenue to the franchise be in terms of lost season ticket sales and bad PR for the Sox?

And the one positive about Reed coming so fast is that it heads off ANY possibility KW will deal Viciedo for a rental "top-notch veteran RH reliever" to complement Crain/Bruney the last 2 months.

Should they trade Buehrle right now? Probably. Will they? Definitely not, KW would face an insurrection. And they're still not going to get Rasmus straight up for Buehrle, because the Cardinals are still taking on around $5 million in additional salary. If the White Sox paid for most of the rest of the year, you POSSIBLY could get Rasmus, but they won't do that. #2, they're not going to do it simply because it means you have to bench Rios or Pierre, and/or trade Quentin. Otherwise, you're acquiring Rasmus and basically writing off $43 million in Rios. Unless you're going to bench Rios for two whole months, then name him the starter again coming into 2012, along with Dayan. And you know how much KW and Ozzie love their "traditional" leadoff hitter. Just not a snowball's chance in hell that the organization would have any credibility with the fans approaching 2012 with Rios as the annointed leadoff hitter to replace Pierre.

Don't you dare say that Rowand!!! I remember when Joe Morgan and many others said the same thing in the middle of 2008 and it kind of fell to pieces in the 2nd half when Linebrink couldn't return to form after the injury.

I think after the DH sweep, the Twins will be hard-pressed to pass all three teams in front of them. The odds are definitely not in their favor. What's going to have to happen is that they get Span/Kubel back and they start getting on base in front of Mauer and Cuddyer. Revere's just wearing down playing everyday and Casilla's erratic at best. I think they were 1/17 in getting on base in the DH, but even 9 hits from Mauer and Cuddyer aren't producing anything because they're mostly not for extra bases (Cuddyer's homer the exception). Plouffe has shown some definitely pop but he's still hitting in the low 200's. What they need more than anything is a good #2 hitter. It's not Casilla, and it's not Nishioka. Huge problem.

Because Buddy Bell worked so much with Teahen when he was with the Royals, that's reason 1. His success against us made him SEEM to be a better player than he actually was/is.

Greg, there are a LOT more issues than his defensive miscues late in games during April. I don't want to have this debate, but your batting average argument for Juan is about the same as saying Brent Morel should be the everyday 3B, or Omar Vizquel. But yes, Juan's definitely not a bigger problem RIGHT NOW than 3B, Dunn and Rios. That's 100% accurate. Nobody could argue otherwise. And it doesn't mean Juan has been anything but "average" or "below average" for the course of the entire season, cumulatively. The White Sox were 2nd in the AL in steals last year. This year, we're 12th. largely due to Juan and Rios...and sitting at a 55% success rate. When speed and hitting for average are his two tools, and he's down to just hitting (but with zero power), it's not going to balance out unless he hits 350-400 with RISP.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 18, 2011 -> 10:45 PM) Cmon folks! Let's get excited. We did win. Offense was somewhat shaky whiffing eight times against Davies, but who cares? We won. Props to Juan, Lexi for immediately lifting the sac fly, Paulie. Good job by the relief corps not blowing it. Crain, Thornton and Sergio all were nasty. I hope we can keep beating KC; their record the last 2 months is so bad it's hard to believe. Except it was actually 9 K's, a career high...and the guy's won what, one game? In some ways, this was worse than the Bruce Chen fiasco, it's just that we got bailed out by their poor defense. Didn't feel like we BEAT them by playing better. They Royals are just so fundamentally flawed they usually get in their own way and give games away to opponents.

Moustakas has been horrible the last month. They might as well have brought in Ohman to get him to feel more confident about getting a lefty out.

Mitchell 0/3 with 3 K's, but at least 2 BB Keenyn Walker 1/2 and hitting .387

Guillen can't get a double salary unless he's working for ESPN/ESPN Deportes for one year. Or FOX, if they dared to see how long Ozzie would go before getting fired.

I think Rios is even more scary going forward than Dunn. Alex's OPS on the road is now closing in on 400 for the entire season. That's almost impossible to do. PLEASE NEVER MAKE A STATEMENT AGAIN ABOUT LEADING THE WHITE SOX in the 2nd half. Thanks for your time and consideration, guys.

Well, it's amusing that a walk-off balk and a game-changing error by Escobar have basically given the last two Sox victories in the season series to us. But we have to take every win we can get. And at least Pierre got a two-out RBI. Adam Dunn, now at .158. Alex Rios on the road, 30/187 (.160), 2 HR's, 10 RBI, 27 K's OPS closing in on 400

Nothing here to see at all. Cabrera and Francouer are the obvious targets, with Betemit being a throw-in if they need another hitter off the bench. Not sure, since I don't follow the Pirates' roster that closely.