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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 10:29 PM) We draft terribly, we develop terribly, and spend nothing on Latin American players (even though most of them LOVE Ozzie). It's scary looking a few years into the future, but hopefully the new General Manager will have a better plan for running an organization. Or we just get them past our entire minor league staff by claiming them from other teams and pairing them with Cooper right away...see Jenks and Santos. It's ridiculous that they're benching Dunn and Rios when they won't do the same thing with a player who won't even be back in 2012 and makes less money.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 10:15 PM) It was extremely uninspiring. I have no idea what our scouting department is doing. It was like someone dared them that they could draft 30 players without taking a high schooler. So now not only do we avoid Boras clients, but we don't draft high school players? I'm starting to think it's carryover from drafting Ventura, Thomas, McDowell and Alex Fernandez. Seriously, it's almost like they're afraid to have to develop any young players themselves (Ryan Sweeney is one of the few exceptions that come to mind) so they just want to take the lower-risk, lower-reward players that are already 20-23 years old. I guess Trayce Thompson counts for something. 1) No high school players (because then you'd have to compete with universities to sign them) 2) Obscure/raw/athletic/potential African-American outfielders (not named Jordan Danks) 3) No signings from anywhere in Latin America, which is basically 30-35% of the world talent lode now 4) No Boras clients 5) Only crony/nepotism picks of players related to the White Sox F.O. or coaching staff (this might be the 2nd biggest scandal after the Wilder fiasco)

This season just sucks. We're not really contending, and there's no way to really even begin to rebuild our team even if you trade Danks or Jackson. I suppose that KW could do something really crazy and trade Quentin, but that's just not happening.

Best candidate to "Tonya Harding" so we can DL them and collect insurance money for rest of 2011.... 1) Juan Pierre 2) Adam Dunn 3) Alex Rios 4) Jake Peavy (ooops, already on DL) 5) Mark Teahen

Get Santos out of there. Don't leave him in like you did against the Dodgers. To hell with Pierre....just bench him and play Lillibridge everyday. No way in hell he doesn't make that play. I think Juan has cost us at least 3-4 games this season defensively.

Of course, the leadoff double. Play should have been made by Pierre when it was his ball coming in from LF and running forward.

This is going to be the tough inning for Santos. Can't give up any cookies to Smoak or Olivo.

Farmer rehabbing Jenks' reputation by telling everyone that Bobby sent flowers and a get-well card to Moose Skowron.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 09:30 PM) Next year's leadoff hitter here.....c'mon Elf....get 'er done That's bad because it means that 1) Rios is permantly benched in CF and his contract is wasted or 2) KW doesn't find a better replacement for Pierre that can lead off. We'll just have to wait and see. I will be surprised if Brent gets enough regular playing time to prove he can be an everyday player unless they just bench Dunn permantly, which you know Ozzie and KW simply won't do. The problem ALSO is that Viciedo simply has to be in the line-up, and unless we trade Quentin or move Viciedo AGAIN to 3B, there's just no way Lilly is the leadoff hitter next year.

Quentin's OPS is all the way up to 973, closing in on 1.000 if he can get his batting average back up in the .280-.300 range. Did Rios actually get a hit? Go...Go...Go!!! Steal. Or a Lilly-Bomb. Might not want to test Olivo...and Rios just hasn't been good at stealing bags this year.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 09:22 PM) Juan with a useless couple of games, but of course he doesn't need rest. But he's the first one to arrive at the park every game and works harder than any player in the majors!!!! I think that's 0/11 or 1/11 this series. TCQMVP...close to back.

The other thing is that we've done well against Aardsma (think he's on the DL) and League in the last 2-3 seasons. Which probably means we'll go down 1-2-3 in the 9th. That 7th was encouraging, though. If Beckham completes that double play (not sure if it was possible), it's a tie game or the Sox are leading.

Beckham now 16 for his last 51. Really close to having another double in this game. Let's hope this lasts for 6-8 weeks and not just 7-10 days.

Somehow Vargas has only thrown 65 pitches, about half as many as Floyd. Need to get at least one run back here with our two best hitters up.

Hangs the two strike breaking ball. I guess it's simply a matter of the baseball gods getting you back for beating Pineda and King Felix. Can't believe he's already thrown 110 pitches in 6 innings. The John Danks special. Bullpen better hold 'em. Ozzie, don't throw Harrell out there please, just because we're trailing now.

QUOTE (Real @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 08:31 PM) here we go gavin doesn't throw his curveball enough, i'll say that right now, he hasn't thrown it much all year from the starts i've seen him pitch i could be completely wrong but it just seems he throws the curve less and less year after year He has been relying more on his slider tonight. Usually he doesn't have both breaking pitches going, it's one or the other that's effective. Seems he only has that knockout curveball once every 3-4 starts.

27 consecutive innings without a run scored there for Gavin against the M's, streak now broken. Too easy on that SB. C'mon, Gavin. You gotta use the slide step.

Vargas must have really good movement and command, because almost every pitch he throws is between 79-88 MPH. C'mon, some offense here would be nice. Don't make Floyd pitch the whole game on pins and needles.

Can't walk Figgins there. Ichiro is still dangerous with runners on base.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) Dan Uggla? Dice-K Matsuzaka, considering he might never pitch again. Hope there's a lot of insurance on that deal.

QUOTE (forrestg @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 07:46 PM) one fo the players that this site members coveted but KW never pulled the trigger on a deal was Chone Figgins. Just noticed he's hitting .185 before his last at bat. I guess that other coveted players also have bad seasons. I guess we're lucky in one sense. From everything you read, Chone Figgins on a bad team or when he's not playing well is a borderline disaster. Figgins was never a good sign at that age AND for that many seasons. Speed players in their 30's almost never work out with long-term deals. Rios might be apathetic (appearing, seemingly), but Dunn, Peavy and Teahen are all pretty well-liked in the clubhouse...at least there's that. I might be tempted because of extra year of commitment we'd be ridding ourselves of, but I still wouldn't take Figgins for Rios straight up, Silva for Bradley. Is the White Sox crowd as disinterested in this pitcher's battle than the board is? Pretty interesting lack of activity considering we're the closest we've been to first place since the second week of the season. With Ichiro seemingly aging before our eyes and Smoak struggling recently, there's not much to get excited about for fans of either team. Just watching Quentin and Konerko hit.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Jun 8, 2011 -> 07:39 PM) Going by expectations, production, and money, is Figgins the worse player in baseball, or is Dunn? Rios and Teahen.

Be careful. Ryan's pretty dangerous.

Do we really have to put up with Alex Rios for 3 1/2 more years? I'd much rather have Lillibridge in CF and Dunn in the line-up. 75-80% more confident that Dunn will eventually figure it out than Rios. Interesting in all the JR quotes that he's said very little about Rios or Peavy.

Their "high water" mark of the season since 7-4 and that ugly 4-18 stretch of baseball (filled with numerous bullpen and defensive meltdowns) to follow...now "only" 5 1/2 games back. We had an even bigger margin at the 2003 All-Star Break.