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•Diamondbacks right-hander Daniel Hudson was part of the ill-fated trade between the Padres and White Sox in May 2009 that was vetoed by Jake Peavy, according to Dan Hayes of the North County Times (via Twitter). Peavy later accepted a trade to the South Siders at that season's deadline, but that package did not include Hudson. Instead, Clayton Richard, Aaron Poreda, Dexter Carter and Adam Russell went to the Friars. Hudson was later dealt to Arizona at the 2010 trade deadline in exchange for Edwin Jackson. from mlbtraderumors.com Just when we thought it was a salary dump alone (with a serviceable Richard heading to the NL West), we apparently almost gave up our best pitching prospect as well. Nice. Even if it was Hudson alone, it would have been way too much with Peavy's contract.

Matt Thornton suffered his third loss in relief, giving up four of the Mariners' seven hits in the last two innings, but manager Ozzie Guillen defended his decision to not bring in Sergio Santos in the ninth. The Mariners were trotting a lot of left-handed hitters to the plate, and besides, Guillen liked the way Thornton was throwing. "Thornton threw the ball good,'' Guillen said. "I'm very happy the way he throw the ball. Strikeout a few [two] people. But I like the way he throw. I don't want to come here and bring Santos and all of a sudden I'm going to leave my bullpen empty. I don't have another chance. Thornton threw the ball good.'' "I like the way he throw the ball today.'' I'm starting to think Ozzie is really crazy. To use Santos, Sale OR Crain there in the 9th doesn't ruin your entire bullpen for the entire series, does it? What he's done now is forced himself to use Sale one of the next two games, who he clearly believes in less than Matty Thornton right now. www.suntimes.com/sports “I don’t have expectations of innings and pitches (with Peavy),’’ Cooper said before the Sox faced the Mariners. “Give us a chance to win the game. Hopefully he can go six or seven [innings]. But just to win a game. We need our starting pitchers to put us in position to win games.’’ Yeah, that offense is really looking like it will heat up in the next 8 games. Has anyone seen our list of home opponents after that? Man, this season is becoming a drag.

Ozzie Throws Yet Another Sox Player Under the Bus (My Title, not Trib, lol) "Bad play by Beck," manager Ozzie Guillen said. "I asked third base coach (Jeff Cox) what's going on there? We asked (Beckham) to let the ball go through. That's between the third base coach and him. "The play we got on, we have to let the ball go through. He went as soon as the ball was hit. I think he just froze." Phil Humber, who will stay in the rotation when Jake Peavy returns, allowed one hit through the first five innings. Peavy was scheduled to rejoin his teammates by Friday night's first pitch. Guillen indicated Phil Humber has pitched well enough to stay in the rotation. The Sox are likely not to use a six-man rotation but they occasionally may skip a starter's turn or move one back for a more favorable matchup. . www.chicagotribune.com/sports (Mark Gonzales) "We don't expect Morel to hit .350, but the thing with everyone hitting .190 and .200, it's simplified," manager Ozzie Guillen said. "It looks that bad. This kid is going to hit. He has good at-bats. But if everyone hits the way they're supposed to hit, it makes it easier for him." Morel has no walks in 75 at-bats, but he just wants to work more favorable counts and not take away aggressiveness. "It's just a fine line," Morel said. "I know I've scuffled, but I've scuffled at every level so it's nothing new." No word on who possibly would be out of the rotation, though. I can hardly imagine they'll put Edwin Jackson and his $8.5 million dollar salary in the bullpen when they're going to have to maximize his value in terms of a return in trade in a month or two.

And Clayton Richard, Chris Young and Ryan Sweeney....Chris Carter is still a prospect, technically Alexei Ramirez and Viciedo, too.

Ozzie was expecting or playing for extra innings so he was saving Sale, Santos and Crain? LOL. Whatever, Ranger. Every loss at this point is just one more nail on the coffin. He should be managing every game like we're tied for the division lead with one week left in the season. The Indians finally lost another game...at this point, I don't want to trend neutral. Either we start making up ground or throw in the towel. I do believe the next 8 games will serve the ostensible purpose of defining itself as the final D.O.A. notice.

The biggest question is why Crain wasn't used in the 9th.

QUOTE (Pale Sox @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:49 PM) What about Baines? Will anyone be able to hear him? I don't even think he'd want the job, period. Let alone taking it after Walker was fired/demoted.

I don't think we're going to lose more than 95 games. Probably 87-91, is my guess. About where the 2007 team ended. Depends on how many of our veteran players are traded, as well. This is our worst 20 game offensive run since 1968. An abysmal .202 average over that time, and tonight was a putrid 5 for 30, so that .167 probably brings it down to exactly .200 over a 21 or 22 game stretch. Of course, something that happens once every 43 years, accompanied with a $128 million dollar price tag, doesn't result in any type of coaching or personnel change.

1) Pitching to Smoak with a base open, all of us called it before it happened....EVEN RONGEY ADMITS it's a bad move by Ozzie, lol 2) Leaving Thornton in until he reached almost 40 pitches when he had nothing but a fastball with 2-3 less MPH on it...and Crain was available 3) Beckham getting picked off third, we'll have to wait to see what transpired there...no reason to have a "contact" play on with the infield in (as any ball getting through will easily score the run) and there's ZERO reason why Alexei Ramirez shouldn't have reached 2nd base (so either a brain cramp by Alexei and/or Baines, probably both)

I think some of the Mets teams in recent years received more attention than we ever will. Any Yankees/Red Sox teams that don't win the World Series. Cubs in recent years. We're irrelevant, really. 4-18, 4-18, 4-18 Only have to go 1-8 now to reverse-equal the 26-5 run from last year. I feel it's inevitable at this point. 6-24 in our last 30 against the Twins, etc.

DJ, "we're just going to have to play better against those guys (Mariners, Angels and A's) and win some games." Great analysis.

I'm pretty much ready to just see our Charlotte roster at this point. Quentin and Konerko have had flashes, but we suck....almost as much as our manager.

3/11....possibly will be 4/12 against Thornton after this AB. WHERE IS CRAIN?

Thornton has thrown 30+ fastballs and maybe a couple of sliders. Are we really going to leave Thornton in to throw 40 pitches? This is insane.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:33 PM) The highly predictable 1-8 roadtrip is well on its way to fruition. Hey, we expected to lose this game before it started, tip your caps to Felix.

Thornton tiring. Loss probability...75-80% here. Matty can end his 0 for 16 slide with one poorly placed FB.

No pinch runner? Really?

White Sox killer Jack Cust stepping to the plate.

What are the odds of Sale getting out of the 9th without giving up a run?? Not a comfortable decision for Ozzie to make. You know he'd prefer to go to Santos. Thornton stays in?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:17 PM) Nice. Gio Gonzalez was at 97 tonight in KC.

Thornton was 94-96 on the M's gun. Olivo was 1/6 with a homer lifetime against Thornton coming into that AB.

Cubs with ONE good decision the last 2-3 years, getting that cancer off their team. Signing Castro, not so bad either. Well, Matt pitched out of it. Olivo expanded the strike zone for him with those high FB's.

QUOTE (Real @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:10 PM) Mariners gonna walk this one off, you can book that s***! Not if they score in the bottom of the 8th, lol.

Didn't realize Thornton had a .341 BAA. How is that even possible? Juan Pierre doesn't explain more than 1/3rd of that.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2011 -> 10:08 PM) Way to blow that, White Sox. See we are playing with fire. "Most" teams that play at home, uh, use that home half of the inning to their advantage. They either scorer here and close us out or score in bottom of ninth. How could Lexi not hit a f***ing fly ball???? How??? That's one thing Uribe or Crede did well, put the ball up into the air in those situations. He hit the ball hard. It's not as easy as one would think to lift a ball into the OF against Felix when he's bearing down.