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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:32 AM) I think if we got Edwin, we'd get him knowing he's been better than his numbers indicate this year and doing it in a supreme hitters haven (much like the cell) and with the intent that we could spin him in the off-season for other parts or with an off-season with coop get him to live up to his potential. What have been the velocity readings on Jackson since the no-hitter? Has he sustained a loss since going almost 150 pitches in that outing?

Well, they'd really have to hope that Quentin would respond well to being the DH unless they planned to play Carlos at 1B? I'd love to have Choo, but they would have to settle the military service issue, and Westbrook's got a big contract...I would be leery about giving them our entire farm system, although Choo's arguably a better (and much cheaper) player than Ichiro right now, IMO.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:28 AM) That says it all. But didn't or hasn't he said the same thing about Gavin Floyd before the 2008 season on a number of occasions, Law that is? If Cooper really thinks they can fix someone and do it quite quickly, then I wouldn't be surprised if they went after Jackson hard...although they had a much better chance to get him if they wanted before the 2009 season IMO. Back then, it only cost the Tigers Matt Joyce.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:26 AM) Grienke may be traded if they want to sell high on him still as there is risk that he is starting to lose it again. Selling high on Greinke won't happen, not after the reports came out about decreased velocity and he was absolutely shelled by the Twins. His ERA is close to 4 now, maybe even a bit higher. Nothing like what they could have gotten had they traded Zack this past offseason.

QUOTE (hawksox13 @ Jul 30, 2010 -> 10:22 AM) I'm trying not to get too excited about a big name coming. At times I think Kenny gets into discussions for a big name player just so he can say, "we'll I tried everything and we just didn't line up. I tried to get Dunn, I tried to get Fielder, but the sides couldn't come to an agreement". See, doesn't that sound good? Just like this past offseason when it came out that the Sox had worked out a deal for Roy Halladay but couldn't come to terms on an extension. It sounds good, but why bother working out the deal unless you are willing to pay him? What was the package for Halladay? Guess I missed that one.

You would think Roberto Clemente's or Shoeless Joe Jackson's ghosts were going to be playing tonight with all this hysteria. Hmmmm...I'm voting for Z. Greinke or Felix Hernandez.

Without a Top 10 pick, except for Beckham....Broadway and Borchard were fairly close, right? We had some pretty bad teams in the late 90's as well, would have to look it up. http://espn.go.com/mlb/draft/history/_/team/chw Bobby Seay was #12 and went unsigned as a first rounder...Borchard was 12, Brian Anderson and Broadway were 15, the forgettable Scott Christman was 17.

That Greg exists? Or that peace exists? Maybe it's the QUADRUPLE VORTEX THEOREM brought to life...and we're now seeing its Butterfly Effect as it sweeps across the planet like the White Sox through the Mariners, the Blue Jays through the Orioles, like Sherman's March to the Sea.

Garcia in the MVP of this team. I think I heard the best call in the history of the post-game. The caller wanted to deal Hudson and Flowers/Viciedo for Dunn...the thinking is that each player is like a cracker (Saltine) and that when you break them in half...you can put butter, ranch sauce, guacamole, BBQ, on each and combine them for a taste explosion, I THINK... So, in the end, if you combine Rios, Quentin, Paulie and Dunn, it would create the dreaded "QUADRUPLE VORTEX" EFFECT and the White Sox would never lose a home game again...Inception would be made explainable...droughts would end end, worldwide environmental damage would be reversed, basically, Adam Dunn is the last BAT-BENDER, or something like that. It just made me laugh, the caller inquired, "Haven't you ever done anything like that?", to Rongey, and he responded with a really irritated/deadpan/sarcastic, "No."

QUOTE (dielac @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 09:16 PM) Why were they playing him so close to the line? Because 90% of the time Ichiro just dunks or gorks balls short and down the line. He's burned the defense twice now. LOL at the idea of Kotsay also going deep there.

First runs since May 7th...almost 1/2 of a season. Pretty amazing run for Putz, not unlike Linebrink in 08 and Hermanson/Politte/Cotts in 05.

Need to get Rios and Quentin going again...

Revere has struggled this year, right? I can't see any way they can afford to trade someone like Hicks or Gibson.

Well, a year ago, Wilson Ramos gets you a lot more. Actually, the Twins' bullpen was doing pretty well recently...I hope this is a case where the tinkering will mess up the roles of Rauch, Guerrier, Crain and Mijares... In hindsight, they should have held onto Breslow and Reyes IMO.

Wilson Ramos for Capps, it's official now.

QUOTE (TomPickle @ Jul 29, 2010 -> 08:50 PM) Capps a part of the Dunn deal if we give the DBacks Santos in a three team trade? Would you really take him back? It would be a bit embarassing for the D-Backs to bring back Sergio now.

I hope that's the end of Garcia in this game with 5 IP, but Ozzie will probably let him start the 6th until he gives up a baserunner. For whatever you want to say about Freddy, he's probably the MVP of this team because of his pitching the first half keeping us from completely sinking. If you look at the money we spent on Andruw Jones and also Vizquel, you can't overstate how important each of them have been at different times this season, all for around, what, $3 million combined?

Gordon Beckham is now about 15th from bottom in MLB OPS. We still have Pierre and AJ in the bottom 10, somehow AJ is one ahead of Justin Smoak (629-628). Seattle and Jack Z. had better hope that he turns out to be the player everyone projected.

Didn't realize Aubrey Huff was rolling along with a 942 OPS. He looked so bad with the Tigers down the stretch last year...nobody thought to make that move. Can the NL really be THAT bad? That's why I worry about bringing in Dunn, not to mention the fact he doesn't want to DH.

Gordon Beckham (657 OPS and rising) has finally passed Mark Kotsay in this category. Hope that run for the 4 run lead we left out there doesn't come back to hurt us...but, with a 17-1 streak at home, we've dodged quite a few bullets. Just don't let up and allow the M's back into this game, please.

If we do make the playoffs, you know that Ozzie will argue the reason for that happening was the time he was able to rest/DH Quentin and Paul Konerko, not to mention rotating Pierre, Rios and Ramirez (did he DH once, or maybe it was Lillibridge) out of the field occasionally. I'll give Ozzie this much...he stuck with those Sunday line-ups for most of 2005 and almost all of our bench players had significant roles in the post-season that year and peformed admirably.

But since we've already invested $6-7 million into Viciedo, I think KW will be less likely to part with him...largely because he has to prove to the rest of the MLB GM's how much smarter he is than them. It's not like trading Gio or Clayton Richard, he's the biggest investment our club has ever made in a player, bigger than Joe Borchard even. Trading The Tank would be like acknowledging a mistake was made, which is why I doubt it happens.

I think the 17-1 streak at home is even more impressive than 26-5 and 32-11. Didn't the Braves have a similar streak at home earlier this year? Don't know why, but I have the feeling that when Kotsay is replaced, it will be like leaving Mark Johnson off the 2000 playoff roster for Josh Paul. It will become the excuse for the negative change in the clubhouse chemistry. Mark Kotsay OPS=651, Gordon Beckham OPS=650. Funny.

Slightly below competent defender at 3B? (Vizquel) What? Are you sure you're not thinking of Viciedo?

Here's one thing I don't get. If I were the White Sox, I would go after Terry Ryan or Jim Rantz of the Twins, and basically give them a blank check to run the scouting department. As they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...but is KW's ego too big to admit to himself this weakness? It's not as if the Twins have unearthed lots of Dominican, Venezuelan or Asian players or outbid many on the international open market. In fact, they've PROBABLY done a worse job than the White Sox in this area, Christian Guzman is the lone player that comes to mind in the past decade, along with David Ortiz (you can also look at them letting him go as a failure of sorts developmentally, since they undoubtedly would have won at least one or two World Series titles with him batting like he did in Boston, but they could never get that kind of performance out of him, for whatever reason). I will give them credit for holding onto Young so long, but they've reportedly tried to deal him the last two offseasons and couldn't find any takers that would give up what they felt he was worth...so perhaps they were a bit lucky here.