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The Tigers are going to look at Miguel Tejada, Peralta, Wigginton, Alberto Callaspo, Jose Lopez....but their first options are Sizemore (900+ OPS in the minors) and moving Carlos Guillen back to that position, although who would be worse between Guillen and Josh Fields would be a question up for lots of discussion. They might also try D. Kelly there as well. I think two of the most intriguing infield names that might move are Uggla and Cantu.

Viciedo's ceiling might be closer to Miguel Cabrera, for all we know, without as high an OBP. Yes, I just compared him to the second best hitter in MLB, but every scout loves his swing and hitting ability...this wasn't a question where there was doubt (like with Alexei Ramirez coming out of Cuba), at least half the clubs were interested in him. I don't think there's any logic to paying Dunn $60 million over 4 years to stay, and there's even less logic to the White Sox being able to get develop someone to that level before, say, 2014-15. If they would have played Viciedo everyday as the DH for the last ten days, they'd have a much better idea if they have to make a trade or not. The fact of the matter is that Dunn would have to adjust to a new league, a new position or situation, it's very rare that someone changes leagues in the middle of the season and just lights the world on fire, especially moving from the NL to the stronger AL. If we're trying to get away from Dunn (Thome) types, why would we want to bring in Dunn? That would be like admitting we made a mistake not just re-upping Farmer Jim. With the price tag being as high as it is, I don't see any way KW pulls the trigger. He knows the future with Peavy/Mitchell/Sale/Hudson/Viciedo/Flowers could be even brighter than what we're putting out on the field right now.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 01:31 AM) I'd move him just to show the Sox aren't afraid to make changes. s***, standing completely pat is not a good idea the rest of the way. KW tinkered a lot going into 2006, and what did it get him?

QUOTE (BFirebird @ Jul 20, 2010 -> 12:11 AM) King Felix will be tough on Wednesday...but good win tonight for sure. As will Brian Anderson...when we activate him and DFA Kotsay.

Santos Rodriguez would be a nice piece to a lot of teams, any left throwing in the mid 90's will get some takers....that we would be offered as the fallback if KW wouldn't include the other (Sergio) Santos. Gartrell is basically filler, though.

The Royals have made some other interesting decisions since Glass took over the club, most notably the huge contract for Meche, which was a smart move for awhile, the contract notably for Jose Guillen and then Rick Ankiel. They keep getting "stuck" between trying to compete and going all out with the rebuild and do neither well. Another example of veterans who have flopped, Farnsworth and Juan Cruz. In the end, with the Royals, it has always come down to pitching. If they trade Bannister because they don't want to pay him, that would be another step backwards. Jorge De La Rosa, yet another pitcher they gave up on too quickly. But like Joe Borchard with us, the failure (so far) of Alex Gordon has been the biggest set-back for this franchise. Hochevar has moments of brilliance and moments where he looks like a White Sox 5th starter candidate.

The problem here is that the Royals are going to ask for Beckham for DeJesus. And that will be the end of the conversation. And there's no way we have the pieces for both of those guys, let alone one.

Not to mention the fact that Gordon Beckham looks to be back. But I'm still not ready to trade away Viciedo or Hudson...we should just ride with what we have and let's just see what happens.

QUOTE (AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jul 18, 2010 -> 03:26 PM) 3 horrible losses in a row to a division rival in a playoff hunt. It's going to go worse. Horrible losses? What are you talking about? At least we came back Friday night and made it a game, the Tigers just lost four in a row to Cleveland. It sucks, but that's what happens in a long baseball season. After Thursday, the White Sox had made up 14 games in a little over a month against the Twins. Even without Morneau, the Twins are not as bad as they were playing, and they still have a ton of pitching question marks. However, we really did manage to bring them back to life when we could have knocked them 5 1/2 back or more.

It's not really a surprise loss to anyone, you almost expect it when Jenks and Minnesota come together. That we didn't get a single out that inning was the only shocker....usually Jenks can sort of make it interesting when he implodes.

Great. Complete meltdown. We might as well give them their 3rd walkoff win of the season without them getting a single out in the inning.

That just sucks. To go from 3 1/2 game lead to 1 1/2 in ten minutes. You had a feeling it was coming when Pierre didn't get the 7th run in.

Praying for double ball ball here.

Everyone saw this one coming....just hope we can get out of the inning with a tie.

Jenks can never have an easy save in Minnesota. I think Guillen will be very tempted to pull Bobby if he gives up another baserunner.

Apparently Scott Baker had to get a cortisone shot in his elbow. Just hope the Indians can keep up their hot play of late in Minnesota, Laffey versus Baker tomorrow night. Let's go Jenks, these 3 run leads make you nervous, it's almost a given he will bring the tying run to the plate.

I wouldn't mind a run or two here and Putz staying in the game.

Putz has been almost as good as Politte/Hermanson in 2005. That's something like 24 appearances in a row without giving up a run.

Pierre is just a terrible hitter with RISP. It seems he has more AB's than any hitter in that situation this year....he's done "okay" the last couple of months but it's just not a situation where he's very comfortable or confident, for whatever reason. Somehow, you know that 7th run will end up being important, at least that's how it used to be in Minnesota. We'll see.

Quentin hurt his hand on that slide? Wow...talk about a guy constantly battling injuries over the last two years. At least it's not his knee again... Now they can't get Beckham out. Typical Twins' hit there by Gordon. First four hit game of his career, 9 hits in the series.

The other thing is that our prospects, unlike Robin Ventura, haven't been allowed to develop in low-pressure situations. All those guys in the late 80's, they weren't expected to do anything or win...it was just developmental/transition time for the ballclub. If nothing else, that has really hampered the development of players like Borchard, Fields, Getz, Owens, Anderson, etc. They simply cannot afford for Dayan to learn how to play 3B "on the job" when every game could be the difference between making the playoffs or not. Some will argue those guys might never have become big leaguers, since they also failed with other organizations or are in the process of failing.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jul 16, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) From FanGraphs. Interesting... Well, if Morel and Flowers are B prospects, it will take that and Santos I would guess.

Theoretically, if Morel can put up a 700-725 OPS, they can live with that. But they've got to be getting a lot of offensive output from Viciedo, Flowers/AJ, Beckham, Ramirez, Quentin, Rios, etc. The easiest solution is Teahen at 1B, Viciedo at DH and Morel at 3B (for the future), but that puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the rest of the offense because you expect to get a lot more pop from those two corner spots. You also would like to give Viciedo time to at least try to develop into an adequate 1B, we all know he has a very strong arm (but his height, not being LH, his ability to dig balls out of the dirt or athleticism in leaping for the ball, there are quite a few question marks)...ultimately, they might decide LF is the final destination, that he needs to be playing the field everyday to stay focused on the game, I'm not sure. Obviously, we seem to have Pierre as our leadoff man into 2011, but things have a way of changing quickly in baseball (as we've seen the last 2 months).

On the subject of Beckham, he shouldn't get a free pass defensively. The guy's on a pace for 20+ errors at 2B, that's not very good. Yes, he has the potential to be an above-average MLB second baseman, but he's not there yet. If we're going to rip Viciedo, the guy hasn't even played that position much this season, he played more 1B. Undoubtedly, he would be better as a DH, but so would Teahen, and Vizquel clearly isn't the long-term solution. And I have a feeling Morel will be the Ryan Sweeney of 3B. Another error. Just not our night. Floyd has never been good at fielding his position...not quite Clayton Richard-esque, but pretty bad.

There's our error. Three run bomb and the game's tied again.