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I remember when Melky Cabrera was an often-mentioned candidate for the White Sox CF job if he could be acquired... Just has never quite fulfilled his promise.

"That's the way it goes when it's going the way it's going..." Yogi Berra Feels like the quote for the first two months of this season.

Is Quentin close to back? Let's hope so. Breaks the string of 8 games without a homer. Kotsay stops wisely at 2B.

In-shirt single. Don't see that too often. Rios should have run for second.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Jun 22, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) Just throwin out there, Tigers losing, Twins winning Omar has become beloved in a hurry Verlander has gotten rocked in that game.

You have to play Vizquel while he's hot, until he tires. Hard for a 43 year old to make it through a Chicago summer without wearing out...it got to Ramirez his first season, definitely.

Fun fact: Danks has a 2.6 ERA if you erase his one bad start where he gave up 8 runs Braves are on a 34-14 stretch of play White Sox are known around the league as an "middle of the plate in, mistake hitting" team...fwiw, that's why hitters like Pierre, AJ, Vizquel, Beckham and Viciedo are needed, because their natural strokes are to the opposite field or RCF. Even Quentin, when he's going good, can rip it to RCF. Rios is a spray hitter. Maybe all that will start to influence Alexei a bit, seems like he's getting locked in more and more. Nice bonehead running Kotsay, didn't look for Cox, ended up getting thrown out by 15 feet.

Horrible, horrible, horrible advanced scouting against Cabrera. Also, the Braves had presciently told Conrad to sit back and wait on the cutter, his bread and butter pitch...3-0 lead. Should still be 1-0 if they had positioned Beckham correctly. White Sox have gone eight games in a row without a homer now. Didn't know that fact.

Yes, but Gordon Beckham and Carlos Quentin were supposed to be "known" quantities in the line-up, too. Who's to say Viciedo hasn't just had everything "click" for him in the last 6-8 weeks and he can carry it forward for the rest of the season.... I really believe more in Viciedo at this point (in our ballpark) than Teahen/Beckham/Quentin. Call me crazy. Just a feeling.

Why can't Viciedo hit? Because of Gordon Beckham, Jordan Danks and Tyler Flowers stumbling this year apparently. Because he's a White Sox position prospect. Because KW signed him. I'm not sure why there is the assumption Mark Freakin' Teahen has more upside offensive THIS season than Viciedo. It's going to take Teahen a couple of weeks just to get back to game speed. If Viciedo can catch fire (en fuego), why not ride the hot rookie like we did with Beckham for 2-3 months last season? Maybe it's the assumption he will make one error per game at 3B? I don't know. It can't be worse than Teahen down there, and he's got Vizquel for the games we're leading late. Or we have the option of moving Omar to 2B (we're not moving Alexei over) and playing Viciedo there...if Beckham can't pull out of it in the next couple of weeks. If I were manager, I'd really have Viciedo in there almost every game and see what we have in him...I wouldn't be DHing Kotsay over Dayan, I know that much.

I know one thing, if the best choices for the organization are Cora and Bell, forget it. As much as I think LaRussa can be an a-s, at least the players would have to respect him. Do they really respect or fear Cora? And Bell's reputation as a manager? Of course, he had some abysmal Tigers teams, but what has he done for this organization exactly to change the minor league system around so dramatically? We do know that he recommended Teahen, one of the most questionable and puzzling contract decisions (along with Linebrink getting four years) KW has made in recent memory. I guess the extension was supposed to be an injection of confidence that his future was with the SOX?

Then I guess you cross your fingers and DH Teahen, hope he gets hot and leave the Viciedo/Vizquel combo at 3B, with Viciedo/Jones/Kotsay also getting some AB's at DH. I don't know what you do with Jones now. Just hope he can get hot again or release him...seems it's him or Viciedo as the next roster decision, although his defensive abilities make him hard to cut, even if he can't hit his way out of a paper bag. When is Teahen actually supposed to come back?

If Teahen's really our third best position player, I'd still rather have Snopek/Norton/Herbert "Milkman" Perry down there. Quite a few complained when Joe Crede would be a mid 700's OPS guy (mostly due to his lack of walks), and he was one of the 2-3 best defenders in baseball most seasons. Teahen is one of the 2-3 worst, if not THE worst. Vizquel and Viciedo? Yes. Just to have the alliteration with the two "V's" together.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 08:33 PM) A LOT better. At this point, DeJesus is a guy who is at least a 2-3 win upgrade over Pierre. And Carlos isn't producing runs, he's just driving them in. Run production and RBI differ in a A LOT of ways. When's the last time KW made a trade in the same season that basically acknowledged a previous mistake (acquiring Pierre)? Teahen getting injured might have been a blessing in disguise (like Owens in 2008), because Viciedo and Vizquel just might be the ticket as on overall offensive/defensive package (yeah, I can't believe I just said that). I also don't think we'lll see him on the bench, he'll either be starting in LF/leading off or no longer with the White Sox, as long as Ozzie's manager. And trading within the division, you know they'll ask for Hudson/Flowers. So then I guess DeJesus is your leadoff hitter and Pierre is benched. Does that really do a whole lot of good for our offense? Or Quentin sits a lot more and DeJesus plays RF or CF.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jun 22, 2010 -> 07:50 AM) Quentin is Jermaine Dye bad and has been for the past two years. Those foot problems have really slowed him down. This is the second time I've had plantar fasciitis in my life, I got it from playing badminton everyday here in China. It sucks, it's not as bad as a kidney stone or a pulled rib cage muscle, but ALMOST. The thing is, you can't survive in everyday, commonplace life without putting some weight on your foot. Imagine an athlete and how much more pressure there is on the foot/feet. Mine is at the back (tissue/ligament at the bottom) of the left heel. The first time I hurt it, I think it was pretty mild, I went back to trying to play badminton and then I really tore through quite a bit of the ligament the second time. You can take pain killers or have a cortisone injection, but it takes months to go away completely (the first time I did it hitting the 1B bag akwardly and also landing with all my weight at the heel instead of evenly balanced landing). It's why I have a lot of sympathy for Quentin, the wrist and the foot can really affect you. You start overcompensating to relieve the pain and protect the injury and then you end up straining another part of your leg. So I think selling low on CQ would be a huge mistake, just like buying high on Corey Hart.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 09:50 PM) I can't make fun of him. I do the same thing. I just double space my sentences, while he single spaces them. I find that in paragraph form people glaze over things and I NEED people to read what I post! Here's to you, Greg775! Yeah Greg, take it from someone who gets picked on for writing long paragraphs/essays/diatribes, you can't please everybody, no matter how hard you try in life. As far as the topic at hand goes, we really can't be as bad as we've played since April of 2009 at home. For most of this decade, we were always an excellent home team. Somehow, that's disappeared for almost 1 1/2 seasons now, almost inexplicable. Sure, the fan support is down 10-15% compared to seasons past, but that alone has to be far from the reason for the strange splits from some of our players, like Gordon Beckham last year or like Gavin Floyd.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 04:45 PM) I honestly remember being in Cincinnati playing the Reds in the midst of our ass-kicking of just about everyone, and it was right when the Twins were beginning to put a streak together. It was right around this time (probably this last weekend), and I knew they were going to make a run. They had Santana, Liriano was coming into his own, and you just could feel that they were going to get back into the race. I hope that they are thinking the same thing right now. We can do this....Just need to keep the arms going. That's the series that it became obvious that Contreras as the best pitcher in baseball was about to end....that hip injury caught up with him.

Adding DeJesus is not going to come cheaply. How much better is he really going to be than Pierre? I think we can expect that Pierre will be pretty decent....considering how poorly he started. And that's where you have that calculus....if Dunn/LaRoche/Scott, etc., aren't going to put us over the top, then DeJesus certainly isn't going to do the trick either. And they're going to ask for Flowers/Hudson or something like that, certainly not justifiable in a season where we've been pretty bad except for this recent 10-1 stretch against inferior competition. Fielder would be a typical KW move, but budgetarily the numbers just don't make any sense going forward. I think this is one of those seasons you have to stick with what you have and hope that Quentin/Beckham can get going and Viciedo can hold his own, with Vizquel spelling him defensively.

Jose Reyes when he's healthy... Alex Rios should be getting onto some of these lists, too. Stanton and Cameron Maybin (if he ever gets it together), Vladimir Guerrero in his prime. Austin Jackson playing defense. Carlos Gomez and Brandon Inge (for Hawk)

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7562 Michael Morse is alive and well. Good to see, nice kid.

QUOTE (docsox24 @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 11:08 AM) I would love Kemp and would trade Floyd for him in an instant. An outfield of Kemp Rios and Q would be one of the best in the league. Berkman hasnt hit for 2 years, maybe he is done. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ap8j...endegrees062010 I think you might want to pay particular attention to the Matt Kemp discussion in this article....one of the season's biggest disappointments, along with the declines of Porcello, Beckham and Peavy (no mention of Quentin at least).

Teahen is DEFINITELY not a corner OFer in even the NL. Lillibridge at 3B? Trading Quentin and Hudson for two uncertainties seems like taking a step backwards, not forwards.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 09:44 PM) Haven't the Sox played well against good teams this year and suffered vs the bad? Anyway, I'm in. i think we were something like 17-17 or 18-18 against teams that were over .500 and the same mark against teams below .500, with the Indians being a large part of that (4-8)....finally balanced out by beating up on the Cubs, Pirates and Nationals

We can't give up Tyler Flowers for an unproven AAA/AAA+/AAAA hitter. Need to get more back than that, Flowers/Viciedo/Beckham all have to hit well going forward for our payroll to stand a chance. I just think they have to make a decision this year...AJ is what he is, and he's reached the limits of his ability with age/wear and tear starting to creep into his game.

Would have been nice to get at least that sixth run across. I'll take Viciedo hitting the ball hard to RF or 2B any day of the week...that's his natural swing, not unlike Beckham. Of course, you don't like the DP ball, but he's made very solid contact in all 3 AB's, which is an encouraging start. Better than him getting diced up and dissected by Strasburg.